Some time ago, here at TOL, I started a thread which sought to re-label Liberals and Conservatives.
I stated that we, as Conservatives, should be called the Liberals, because we seek to liberate people from bondage, from oppression, and to liberate their God given rights.
It is the Liberals who are the ones who seek to conserve those things.
So, let it never be said that it was the right-wingers who lynched blacks, they just had the wrong label. They were very interested in 'conserving' or 'restricting' people's God given right to life.
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In other news, war is peace, freedom is slavery, and ignorance is strength. Back to you, Bob.
Hypothetical situation... we rename liberals as conservatives and conservatives as liberals. All references to each, in this context, are changed to the other.
Clearly he is trying to invoke classicl Liberal principles and associate them with what he considers the 'right'.
"So, let it never be said that it was the right-wingers who lynched blacks, they just had the wrong label."
I love "classical liberal" -- it makes it sound as if nothing at all has changed since the term was coined and that those who consider themselves liberals now have no right to the name because they don't espouse the same positions that liberals a century and a half ago espouse.
In the grand scheme of things, it's just the same tendency that both religion and politics have to assume that maintaining the same positions under any and all circumstances is somehow a virtue. In this case, it basically amounts to misappropriating a label based on some of its surface characteristics while ignoring the most basic tenets of the label.
Doublethink: The power of holding two contradictory beliefs in one's mind simultaneously, and accepting both of them. ... To tell deliberate lies while genuinely believing in them, to forget any fact that has become inconvenient , and then, when it becomes necessary again, to draw it back from oblivion for just so long as it is needed, to deny the existence of objective reality and all the while to take account of the reality which one deniesall this is indispensably necessary. Even in using the word doublethink it is necessary to exercise doublethink. For by using the word one admits that one is tampering with reality; by a fresh act of doublethink one erases this knowledge; and so on indefinitely, with the lie always one leap ahead of the truth.
Unfortunately for you, "right-wing" and "left-wing" haven't changed definitions so much.
You don't understand the meaning of the word "conserve," obviously. Neither do you understand the left-wing position on a great many things. Let me clarify something...
The position of many of the far-right conservatives in the US includes:
Not long ago, these were the same people who were promoting segregation, opposing women's voting, and screaming about 'dirty pinko commies.' Liberal, indeed.
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Your blatant and poorly-executed attempt at adding to the Fundie Word Redefinition Project has been found lacking, and therefore your proposal is denied. Please pick up the nearest available dictionary, and proceed to flog yourself with it.
"We seek to liberate you from the sin of homosexuality, the sin of abortion, and the sin of recreational drug use!"
But that guy doesn't wanna be saved, she got raped, and the other guy's got glaucoma!
"NO EXCUSES! YOU'RE BEING LIBERATED, DAMMIT!"
I'm quite comfortable with my life being conserved and not liberated, thank you very much.
Are you also against conservation of nature?
How about conservation of privacy?
Would you consider liberating a raped girl from a child she physically cannot give birth to, unless she's willing to risk death?
Freedom is slavery!
@Salvador --
We re-define "Libertarian" by switching it with "libertarian," so the tradition which invented the term gets the capital L. Of course, that's another right-wing/left-wing, authoritarian/anti-authoritarian switch...
And then man goes on to prove that Black is White, White is Black, and then gets accidentally run over at the next zebra crossing.....
w/apologies to D.Adams....
Stupid far-right liberals.
Edit: also, how come conservatives don't seem to generally care about conservationism? And why doesn't discussion involve a discus? This sucks.
Confused?
So were we! You can find all of this, and more, on Fundies Say the Darndest Things!
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