[In response to a comment which asked, "Just being an atheist makes one a merciless psychopath capable of exterminating entire nations and cultures?" ]
Um. Yeah. Well, one little atheist can't do much on his own, but if it spreads, much like a virus, it would be deadly, turning society into a pathological and homicidal mess. Atheism is simply spiritual entropy in action. Spiritual entropy always leads to death and destruction, never to uptopia.
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"Spiritual entropy"?
Also, the rest of your argument begs for a [citation needed]. The world is simple through B&W fundie glasses, isn't it?
We in the UK actually have a state religion, the Church of England, yet our Parliament is very secular (PROTIP: India is the most religious country on the planet, yet politically it's even more secular than ours).
I live in Hull, one of the Top 5 least religious parts of the UK. Lots of churches here have been converted to furniture warehouses, pubs/nightclubs (one called 'Heaven and Hell'; oh, the irony!), or simply left to rot.
In Sweden, just 5% of the population are regular churchgoers; less so in Denmark.
According to surveys & polls conducted by the EU, the Czech Republic is the least religious country in Europe.
Your light is dying, fundies, and you know it.
@Anon-e-moose : Not only that but the more secular a country becomes the more progressive it becomes as well. European nations have some of the most progressive health care, justice and welfare systems in the world. Meanwhile in the states the most conservative people are also the most religious and fervently stand against universal health care and welfare programs as well as seeing no problem with executing prisoners.
Guess that's why we have so many school shootings, murders and on-going wars in Sweden, why everybody lives in poverty and we're all illiterate and unwell. Or, ya know, not.
Taylor, dear; we're much more than one little atheist over here. In your view we're probably more or less atheists, the lot of us. But, what do you know; we're in the top ten of most lists of things like life expectancy, average health, literacy, average level of education, etc. (We have been plummeting a bit in the lists during the latest government, though...)
We haven't had a single school shooting, and the state does not murder its subjects.
Religion continues to drop off, atheism grows, and yet crime and violence are also on the decline. Reality disagrees with you, Taylor.
@ Anon-e-moose and Swede:
Oh, how I wish the fundies' influence were dying over here... *rants about America being hopelessly reactionary compared to Western and Northern Europe*
It's all the South's fault, really... May Andrew Johnson and Rutherford B. Hayes, the presidents who were South-enablers, be burning in hell for all eternity...
Hmm. Atheists are more likely to be humanists. Humanism= "All life is worthy of respect. Morality can be based on empathy. Others are like ourselves in that they are capable of feeling pain, so we should seek to minimise inflicting pain or injury on others."@Anon-e-moose : the Church of England is the established church of England, not of the UK as a whole.
Citations seriously fucking needed.
This reminds me of Herman Cain " Now I don't have facts to back this up, but.."
Um. Yeah. Well, one little priest can't do much on his own, but if it spreads, much like a virus, it would be deadly, turning society into a pathological and homicidal mess. Religion is simply stupidity in action. Religion always leads to death and destruction, never to Utopia.
There, I fixed it for you--including the spelling of "Utopia"!
On june 22nd 1941, 4.5 million christians marched in unison...
Dont try to minimize this.
"Spiritual entropy always leads to death and destruction, never utopia".
Ok. So the opposite would be spiritual exuberance. Which lead to witch burnings, hangings, inquisitions and torture, etc. Thank gawd yall christinsanes dont really take yalls bronze age mythology any more serious than yall already do.
Um. Yeah. Well, one little christian can't do much on his own, but if it spreads, much like a virus, it would be deadly, turning society into a pathological and homicidal mess. Christianity is simply spiritual entropy in action. Spiritual entropy always leads to death and destruction, never to uptopia.
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I've been an atheist for the better part of my life and have yet to assault someone, never mind kill them. Your statement is simply false and belies the fact that if people like you truly stopped believing in your sky-daddy watching your every moves, you would be the most dangerous things on this planet.
EDIT: I should really read the comments before posting. David B. beat me to it like, by ages.
Idiot sez, "....but if it spreads, much like a virus, it would be deadly..."
"Atheitis", kinda like "The Gay Plague", "Darkie Cooties" & "Jew Germs"....y'know, totally BS ailments that fundie bigots dream up constantly.
Frankly, I could say the same about these fundy nuts that spew this junk!
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You don't know what entropy means, you fucking idiot.
Science distortion, only to be expected on Vox Popoli. I'm surprised it wasn't a Vox Day quote...
Also @Brendan Rizzo:
the Church of England is the established church of England, not of the UK as a whole
Except that they have a panel of bishops sitting in our House of Lords, which means they are involved in having the final say in the laws which govern the whole kingdom and it's principalities. The British parliament may intervene in the lawmaking of the devolved governments of the UK too.
It is actually quite complex, almost like the Federal vs State government you have in the US (with less freedom, I may add)
You need to step up the pace on the evangelizing front to create new zombies to replace the current lot as they die off. For instance, I am in desperate need of some of your most potent evangelizing, my capacity for evil has no focus and is likely to remain unfulfilled as long as atheism exerts its deadly apathy over me.
The ubiquity of sanity among the humans of the world must be a very worrying state of affairs for you; surely an increase in mental illnesses and outright lunacy is what you urgently require in order to evangelize effectively?. You need converts because you are becoming increasingly deranged, sad and marginalized.
@Lpopman
You're right, but I think what Rizzo means is that the Church of England is England's official church, whereas Scotland has the Church of Scotland and Wales has the Church in Wales. They're branches of the Anglican church of which ol' Dr. Williams is the head.
"one little atheist can't do much on his own, but if it spreads, much like a virus, it would be deadly, turning society into a pathological and homicidal mess."
That has already been demonstrated in the case of christianity.
Alright, all the "fixed" comments here replacing Atheism with Christianity in the quote are exactly the reason so many people think Atheists are just as reactionary and unreasonable as the religious. I don't like religions and would take great joy from seeing them gone, but ultimately they are just a symptom of the far more widespread problems of humanity and demonising them doesn't help; in fact it often makes it worse by blocking any potential debate and discussion. And yes, I am being a massive hypocrite, but that doesn't mean I'm incorrect.
That said, Taylor is an idiot who needs a big wallop with the clue bat.
@Lpopman
But there have been occasions where the decisions of the House of Lords has been overruled by the House of Commons. Actual elected politicians.
And even religious MPs know that - as far as they're concerned - the Party leader and Chief Whips are God. Certainly if they want to keep their offices/aides etc, least of all advance up the 'Greasy Pole' to a cabinet position, and say to them 'Yes sir, no sir, three bags full sir'; even if the policies of said party goes against their religious beliefs.
So no GOP here in the UK, thank fuck. Even said religious MPs know that being openly fundie is a guaranteed vote-killer.
Several years ago, there was a debate in the Commons about Stem Cell research and changing the time on abortions. The then Leader of the opposition - now Prime Minister - David Cameron voted against a ban on Stem Cell research, also against reducing the time on abortions.
See, Teabaggers, Religious Right etc in the US? A Conservative is pro -Choice. It wouldn't kill you to be the same.
Arnold Schwarzenegger is Pro-Choice. He's also pro -Gun Control. He's a Republican.
@Old Viking
"Many atheists spend their college years matriculating in public."
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@ Lpopman and Atheissimo:
That was farpadokly who said that, not me. His comment was directly below mine, so I understand how you could have gotten them confused.
@Brendan Rizzo:
@anon-e-moose:
agreed. I'll just be glad when those dusty old farts get ejected from the house of lords. All of them. I'm just fed up with the CofE having an influence in government...
My father's an atheist and he's not a psychopath. I'm basically an atheist and not a psychopath. So, fail.
A psychopath is simply somebody who lacks a conscience - like, that brain function literally doesn't work. The only way to become like that, I'm pretty sure, is by birth. Atheism has nothing to do with it, nor does Christianity.
To be fair, I could kind of see why a psychopath might want to embrace atheism, but I would think that pretending to be a Christian would be far more lucrative - as a psychopath, you'd have no qualms about lying your way into a high position, and then you'd have a bunch of dupes and their money at your disposal. Sounds pretty sweet.
"Um. Yeah. Well, one little atheist can't do much on his own, but if it spreads, much like a virus, it would be deadly, turning society into a pathological and homicidal mess"
I think you'll find uncrontrolled gun ownership is doing this already. Not that any American would acknowledge this glaringly obvious fact.
Apparently, the most heartless monster on the planet is better than the nicest person if the former is a Christian and the latter an atheist!
@ Brendan Rizzo
I understand your frustration (I'm an American too), but an eternity of suffering in hell is one of those things that fundies say that alienate people from religion. Try to lighten the rhetoric a tiny bit please.
@Brendan Rizzo
I like to think of Fundyism in general here in the States as like a saltwater puddle.
The more it shrinks, the saltier it gets. The saltier it gets, the more it shrinks... The Right here is on a downward spiral and the age of the Moderate Progressives is ascendant.
@ Brendan Rizzo
It's all the South's fault, really ... May Andrew Johnson and Rutherford B. Hayes, the presidents who were South-enablers, be burning in hell for all eternity...
Really? Not all Southerners are mouth-breathing funditards. Please watch the hyperbole.
@ Wyzard:
True, but, the only reason that the South is so populated by fundies is BECAUSE of the fact that before the Civil War, the racists had to justify slavery somehow, and the way they did that was saying that their religion commanded it. Thus, they developed a very extremist view of the Bible.
That Vese guy who posted on 10/10/11 10:09 AM has the right of it:
Yes, a moral system based on empathy and understanding the consequences of my actions in reality is clearly psychopathic.
No, clearly the only proper moral system is one based on fear of hell or the promise of heaven. Funny, I would prefer that my neighbors base their actions on reality and an understanding of the consequences of that behavior.
Treating your fellow humans with kindness only so you can be eternally rewarded and avoid eternal torture IS NOT MORALITY. If you can't see why this is, you probably need religion because you clearly cannot think for yourself.
Boom.
Yeah, me and my atheist buddies to tried to exterminate an entire culture the other day, but we couldn't find one.
I told the boys we shouldn't have chosen Texas.
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