But, the Founding Fathers did not dream of us becoming a less moralistic nation. One nation under God. The day the word "God" has been removed, America loses its morals.
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The phrase "One nation under god" is fairly new. It certainly wasn't something the founders said. It was added to our money and to the the pledge in the mid 20th century as a sort of jab at the godless soviets.
That makes me think. If it wasn't for the cold war and a desire to be entirely contradictory to everything that we perceived the Soviets to have stood for, would America be so overrun with fundamentalists?
Probably so, but still.
@michael3ov
You might actually be onto something there, especially when you can see the fear of Communism today and the very word social is deeply rooted in the Bible Belt. The politicians that keep going on about God, Jesus and Biblical laws are all from there and the Fundamentalist churchs think Communism, Social programs and Liberal ideas are something to be villified at the Pulpit.
Y'see the cold war froze right over but down South they just couldn't let go or put it out of their minds. It could well be that their churchs wouldn't let facts stand in the way of their fearmongering, labeling Russia as the devils tool and keeping the flocks in pepetual fear of Liberal, communist or (shudder) Atheist ideas.
Fast foward to the 2000s and it's hard to tell a Southern Republican official from their Fundamentalist preachers, always stoking fear.
What a terrible tragedy! All those wonderful Biblical morals like how to sell your sister and obeying God's instruction not to wear clothing of mixed fibers. Or, my personal favorite, that old chestnut about keeping holy the sabbath.
"The day the word "God" has been removed, America loses its morals"
Jimmy Carter has used the pre -1954 Pledge of Allegiance, which omits 'Under God'.
He's a devout Southern Baptist. Enjoy your paradox, Bjmaster. >:D
Of course, "one nation under God" appears nowhere in the founding documents and wasn't added to the pledge until the red-scare of the 50s, but I guess you really know what the founding fathers dreamed.
The founding fathers were not around in the 50s. Also when we were a nation under god and a theocratic wet dream for you fundies, it was the 1690s and people were hung just being accused of witchcraft. And since the 90s, the murder rate has gone down. As that is the case,
[] God does not exist
[] God is not the good guy
[] God is powerless
The Pledge of Allegiance didn't exist before 1892, and was not used before 1942. The "under God" was added in 1954, just like "in God we trust" (which, by the way, should seem blasphemous to most people) on money was added in 1953.
I still don't get why they think "moral" is just a synonym for "God-fearing". Not least because it manages to make precepts of morality, immorality, and amorality inapplicable to God...Are they sure they want anything to do with THAT kind of entity, even propitiation?
(The "under Gawd" part havig been covered...)
The Founding Fathers did not dream of atomic bombs, air traffic, factory farming, telecommunications, radio, television, computers, aircraft carriers, Monsanto, Disney, Microsoft, Exxon, DuPont, indoor plumbing....
If you want to make a fetish of the Founding Fathers, why don't you go to the 2nd floor of the National Museum of American History and suck George Washington's toe ?
So all we have to do is utter the word "God" and He'll wave His magic wand and solve all our problems? Gee, why didn't they think of that in the Middle Ages when the Plague was killing off a third of the human population of Europe? Oh, wait a minute ... they did ! It didn't work. And maybe they should have thought of that in the Northeast with superstorm Sandy - you, know, prayed for their houses not to be washed away. Wait - people did that, too.
S*** in one hand and pray to God to fill the other one with gold and see which one gets filled first.
(Thinking Allowed)
Hell, that's nothing. My grandfather is old enough to have done the Bellamy salute during the Pledge when he was in school.
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If the pledge had remained one nation indivisible instead of being changed to one nation under God, would American culture still be so retardedly divisive?
Or maybe that was exactly the point, to help facilitate the belligerant tribal nature of modern America's political and religious divides.
@Passerby :
"Indivisible" is still in there. In fact, it's the very next word after "under god".
Apparently, it hasn't helped much.
Dipshit, the one nation under god was added well after the founding fathers. If you looked that up, but wait, you don't have a clue what you're talking about, nor do you or anyone you're talking to care. If you cared about reality, you might have had to change your attitude.
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