Here lies the fundamental reason for all the ills that exist in America (or any society). Despite what blind patriots and Bill of Rights quoters think, America has failed to legislate itself in strict accord to the moral laws of God. In fact, the first amendment to its manmade constitution reveals that America has always been forbidden from doing so. If the government of America would officially embrace the true moral laws of God, it would be espousing a particular "religion".
Therefore, the principles of the heathen Constitution and its Bill of Rights rule instead of morality. There is a constant clamor across the nation against morality on the basis of so-called constitutional rights. But this is the way the forefathers established this nation. Since its inception, America has truthfully been foolishly seeking to govern itself rather than seeking to perfectly conform to the righteous, rightful authority and holy kingship of the most high God.
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Since its inception, America has truthfully been foolishly seeking to govern itself rather than seeking to perfectly conform to the righteous, rightful authority and holy kingship of the most high God.
"The question before the human race is, whether the God of Nature shall govern the world by his own laws, or whether priests and kings shall rule it by fictitious miracles?"
-John Adams
". . . Thirteen governments [of the original states] thus founded on the natural authority of the people alone, without a pretence of miracle or mystery, and which are destined to spread over the northern part of that whole quarter of the globe, are a great point gained in favor of the rights of mankind."
-John Adams
"Let us, then, fellow citizens, unite with one heart and one mind. Let us restore to social intercourse that harmony and affection without which liberty and even life itself are but dreary things. And let us reflect that having banished from our land that religious intolerance under which mankind so long bled, we have yet gained little if we countenance a political intolerance as despotic, as wicked, and capable of a bitter and bloody persecutions."
-Thomas Jefferson
Ok, start killing non-virgin brides, forbidding lobster, killing people who work on Sunday or sell your daughter into prostitution. and see what happens. And don´t live, WITH ALL ITS CONSEQUENCES, in USA. Go to Saudi Arabia or the Middle East and live like a Beduin. But you know, with all. With high mortality, specially infant, rate, poverty and war.
Haywood:
I just had a run-in with Brother Jed's protegé, Brother Micah, on Darwin Day. There's even video . Much fun.
I had a great run-in with Brother Jed a couple of years ago, too, but there was no YouTube back then.
Right. Let's go Taliban and install Sharia law - er, I mean, Christian and install Biblical law.
We'll start with burning down every city in the States for their non-Christian residents, as the Old Testament orders, and then proceed to kill every American for living in heathens' cities, as ordered by the same book.
Or maybe not. I like you people:).
Besides, this idiot ignores thast people in the past were trying to live with "God´s law" and for some reason, some time after, it failed and founded the USA. He exists thanks to that step, so the whole thing is a conceptual leap.
America has failed to legislate itself in strict accord to the moral laws of God. Shout glory! Unless, of course, you miss the good old days in which rape victims could be stoned to death, flogged, or forced to marry their rapists.
Haywood Jablomy: Brother Jed, did you say? Is that Jed Smock, by any chance? That was a fundie street preacher who used to come to my college and harangue the students about once or twice a semester. I watched him in action a time or two; he was disturbingly self-confident in condemning everybody around him.
~David D.G.
I also remember Jeb Smock, he used to stop by Penn State annually on his "you're all going to Hell" campus tours. He'd set up shop on the front steps of Schwab and shout so loud he'd disrupt the lectures being held inside. He'd never stay very long, perhaps a week, before hitting the road to call the students at another school whores and fornicators.
Problem is: the Bible is full of violent, misleading, ignorant and contradictory - not to mention just plain wrong - things. There is no way that any society could live by its dictates and not absolutely destroy itself as a result.
I have a question for rtlee: Does the morality of which you speak also include the stoning to death of rape victims, the selling of children into slavery, mass murder, etc.? Just curious.
Why doesn't Bobby Lee just move to Saudi Arabia? Sure, they're Muslims, but there's really no difference between what they do and what he wants. Aside from denying the divinity of Jesus, they enforce the same biblical moral laws he wants for America. As long as he keeps his mouth shut about Jesus in public, he should find it the very misogynist, sexually repressive, dance-, music- and fun-free utopia he's looking for. I can't say the rest of us will miss him - most of us are happy with our Constitution just as it is, and the tiny minority of religious fanatics who agree with him are not likely to change it.
I remember listening to Brother Jeb at the University of Kentucky back in the '80s. Very entertaining, because he was nuts. He said he wouldn't have married his wife without the permission of both his mother and his father. Problem was his father was dead, so he asked his mother if she thought dear old dead dad would have approved.
Oh, go away. Get yourself your own island, run it as a theocracy, and see what happens.
No, seriously. It would be quite entertaining to see all of you beating the shit out of each other.
Hey, if you don't like America, get the fuck out, buddy! I'm thinking maybe we should let these people have Utah or Kansas or S. Carolina and secede.
Confused?
So were we! You can find all of this, and more, on Fundies Say the Darndest Things!
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