[If life started spontaneously by chance on this planet, how come death exists?]
Especially if energy/matter is eternal.
One would think that the ability of "stuff" to never "wear out" would be passed on to life that just happened to arise from said "stuff".
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One would think that the ability of "stuff" to never "wear out" would be passed on to life that just happened to arise from said "stuff".
When you build a house of cards and knock it over, you still have the cards. You can build a new house with the same cards and knock it over, again, and again, and again, and again ...
Why is that so?
oh this guy just put himself in a theological conundrum. in fact, i do believe what he just said would've gotten a heresy charge against him back in the day, and he probably wouldn't recant because he's a moron. he's saying the holy spirit is the cause of death, and mundane material is eternal, and therefore superior to the spirit.
but, anywho, the idea is that life is the result of an ongoing process. when that process stops, the organism is dead. the mater and energy involved are still there.
Ever heard of attrition?
Neither energy nor matter is eternal. Energy get's converted all the time to different kinds of energy and so does matter, because "stuff" does actually wear out for the local systems, just think of the cycle of solar systems:
nebula -gravity> solar system -supernova> nebula
add energy and other matter and you have a cycle (well, that's the extremely simplified version).
I can't decide which quotes make my blood boil more, the "War on Whites/Men/Straights/Christians/The Rich" ones, or the scientifically-illiterate ones like this. Don't they just make you want to grab the person and shake them while saying: "IT. DOES. NOT. WORK. LIKE. THAT. YOU. FUCKING. IDIOT."
If life started spontaneously by chance on this planet, how come death exists?
Because no living thing on this planet has evolved to the point of living forever. Although we have some trees which have lived for a very, very, very long time.
Who said "stuff" has the ability to never "wear out?" Oh, right, that was your stupid a$$. That matter itself may not "wear out" does not mean that once assembled with other matter it will remain in that assembly forever.
Evolutionarily speaking, death is necessary, and we now know (because of real science) that the act of procreation actually speeds up the process of death -- genes have been passed on, so the current set becomes obsolete. Also,
read up on programmed cell death. Fascinating.
It tries to live forever, but lots of factors contribute to it not living forever. Oxygen, wear and tear, background radiation, drunk drivers......
Matter and energy cannot be destroyed BUT IT CAN BE CHANGED.
You people KNOW that's part of the Theory but always drop it.
Change, such as you reduced to decomposing matter is the death of you.
Science has never suggested an eternal stability and you lot have got to stop trying to shoehorn religious concepts into it.
This is like Hovinds approach to scientific principles, he goes on for awhile totally misrepresenting a study or theory and ends with "Isn't that stupid?" Yes it is, because Hovind made it up.
So what's this stuff that never wears out that you're speaking of?
It definitely isn't matter. All matter will eventually undergo spontaneous decay, leaving behind nothing but electromagnetic radiation that is too thinly spread to be converted back into matter.
Even if that wasn't the case, the human body is a bunch of chemicals that react with each other. We aren't the most stable things in the universe, you know. We deteriorate. And when oxygen and fuel stop flowing to one's brain due to deterioration, whether from aging or from injuries, or starvation, their brain will start eating itself and they will usually die within a few minutes. Simple as that.
Confused?
So were we! You can find all of this, and more, on Fundies Say the Darndest Things!
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