[Comment on article about clashes between government and pro-Russian forces in Odessa]
The West WANTS not just civil war but world war - just as it did in 1914 and 1939. It is the only way out of capitalist crisis which despite all the nonsensical boasting about "recovery" is in catastrophic failure. As soon as the fraudulent conjuring trick of Quantitative Easing implodes things will be even more disastrous than 2008 (the worst collapse in all history - Mervyn King, governor of the Bank of England). We need a revolution
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@MK
Actually, this is about the gold standard. "Quantitative easing" is a method used by some central banks (which he hates) to spur on the economy.
Some people just won't let the moribund gold standard give up the ghost.
@Felix
Thanks! The average WND reader hates central banks and wants revolution so I was confused.
@Yossarian
The World Net Daily Crowd would consider Maggie Thatcher to be a tax and spend socialist who was soft on nat'l defense and foreign policy.
DonH, you say you want a revolution, well, you know...then we'd have to shoot you. Or at least our British friends would. We have our own special morons on this side of the Big Water.
The 2008 collapse was due to our permitting the Lords of the Universe on Wall Street to pretty much do whatever they wanted to do.I personally believe if we locked up a couple of these "anything for a buck" Masters of Creation, it might have gone a lot further to moving the economy along.
This isn't the equivalent of WND, people; this guy is a communist. And what was the line of those revolutionaries in 1939? "... the German government declared itself ready for friendly relations with the Soviet Union, whereas the English-French war bloc desires a war against the socialist Soviet Union. The Soviet people and the working people of Germany have an interest in preventing the English war plan." (Walter Ulbricht - later leader of East Germany - Die Welt (Moscow), April 1940)
@ Yossarian Lives
The Guardian's editorial line is left of center but since Seaumas Milne took over its comments section some years ago, that part of the paper has veered much further to the left. As for the commenters below the line, just as you find fascists and Little Englanders at the Telegraph, you find Trotskyists, Stalinists and other tankies at The Guardian.
To expand on what @Yossarian said, the Grauniad (a hangover from the days when they had very bad type checking) is probably the largest liberal (by British standards) anti-establishment newspaper.
Which can lead to some interesting dichotomies when "the man" is in fact to the left of (the British) centre.
There is some overlap between the US and UK, however about as far right as is electable in the UK is about as far left as is electable in the US.
Putin invaded and annexed a part of a sovereign state, whose territorial integrity Russia guareented in 1994.
Moreover, his militias are roaming the Eastern provinces, threatening loyalists, shooting on the Ukrainian army and speaking about seceding.
And it's the West who have aggressive intentions ?
While it's true 1914 was a war between imperialist powers, in 1939 the West was defending against Hitler's armies while Stalin was giving him the oil and other materials needed to shoot Norvegians, Danish, Polish, French and British troops and civilians.
@Hasan Prishtina
Let's not forget the French communist MPs who said Poland was a fascist state who had it coming while militants were sabotaging military factories so much the State passed laws making issuing communist propaganda a capital crime, due to its defeatist and sabitage-inciting character.
"It is the only way out of capitalist crisis which despite all the nonsensical boasting about "recovery" is in catastrophic failure."
okay, i'm with you...
"We need a revolution"
how will our economic catastrophe be helped by revolution? let's face the reality of the economic catastrophe we're in, for which the only way through is painful, and for which no trick will let you sidestep, because reality can't be tricked.
bullshitter.
WWIII is coming, wake up, sheeple! War is imminent... And that's why Putin is negociating with Europe and Germany is going soft. Oh, wait.
@Jen: I don't know if I'd call it a conspiracy theory, and it's common to the radical left worldwide, but not really found outside socialist discourse. I think the belief behind this is basically that war is one of very few things that can be arranged by the state with ease and provides the economic expansion required to sustain capitalism. The ruling class always wants war, because war reinforces their authority and power, and distracts the masses.
Of course, as with Marxist class analysis, some do take these ideas to conspiracist extremes.
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