Pro-life: Do not believe in choice-abortion
Pro-Choice: Believes that choice-abortion should be one of the first choices when and if the woman has a choice. That to have a baby is not the best (Planned Parenthood) choice, but should be able to abort and kill the kid, so that the family can have more money, etc.
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Pro-Choice: Believes in offering reproductive options to people.
Pro-Life: Believes in forcing women to have babies, not teaching these same women about birth control, and beyond these women actually having the children, not caring about the women in the slightest.
How was that? Did I paint with a wide enough brush, or should I go over it again?
Good education + effective contraception = drastic reduction in abortion statistics.
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"Pro-Choice: Believes that choice-abortion should be one of the first choices when and if the woman has a choice. That to have a baby is not the best (Planned Parenthood) choice, but should be able to abort and kill the kid, so that the family can have more money, etc."
No, Pro-Choice means the choice of a safe, medical abortion should be an available choice, available without jumping through legal hoops and getting consent from one's parents or one's current or past boyfriends.
Abortion does not kill kids, it destroys blastocysts and embryos, not kids.
I believe Planned Parenthood's position is that having a baby is not ALWAYS the best choice.
And, of course, there are many, many other reasons besides money for a woman to seek an abortion.
"...so that the family can have more money, etc."
Because we all know that it's all about the money in cases of rape victims not wanting to get pregnant by their rapists. </snark>
Fundie word redefinition! Yay!
Anyway, nobody wants abortions to happen, it's just that some of us realize their necessity and others (you know, like you) want to live in a dream world full of people just like you.
Obviously you've never met a woman who had an abortion. For everyone I've ever known, the abortion was one of the last choices. But fortunately in America(in spite of self-righteous jerks like you and pompous hypocritical fundie toadie politicians), it is still a choice.
The first one is accurate. The second one doesn't realise that more than half of the women who carry out an abortion is, mainly, because they have no money, to begin with.
"Wimminz is too stupid to make choices about their bodies, so us manly men who will never actually have an abortion should decide the choices for them for them!"
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"Pro-Choice: Believes that choice-abortion should be one of the first choices when and if the woman has a choice. That to have a baby is not the best (Planned Parenthood) choice, but should be able to abort and kill the kid, so that the family can have more money, etc."
This, folks, is what is commonly known as The Big Lie. It is pretty much exactly the opposite of the truth -- but if you proclaim it loudly enough, often enough, it will be accepted by many people who are too stupid to recognize it for what it is.
The kicker is that knowing this doesn't fix anything, and that depresses the heck out of me.
~David D.G.
Oh? So where do people like me fit in, people who believe abortion is a valid choice, but only as a last resort?
Riddle me that fundietard.
If pro-lifers would:
1) pay the woman's medical bills (in cases where pregnancy endangers the woman's life) and funeral expenses if she dies
2) adopt the child once it is born, or at least pay a large portion of the expenses of raising a child until the child can support itself
then I would respect them. Given that many pre-lifers stop caring about the kid once it's born, my respect for them averages around the same level as my respect for garden slugs.
And so that the kid's soul will be given another chance in a better neighborhoos, richer family, better country altogether, whatever. I see the pro-life Christian connection now.
Confused?
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