If Islam in its purest form is indeed the enemy, then what do you propose doing? If Islam does indeed pose an existential threat to Western civilization, don't talk about it. Do something. If they want a war, give them a war. If they burn a church, burn a mosque. If they kill a pastor in Oman, shoot a mullah in San Diego. It's that simple. Respond to the aggressors with greater force, and only then can you hope to survive. Sun Tzu understood it, Jesus of Nazareth understood it...
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So, your plan is to escalate the violence, murder and arson until only one human being is left, or what?
It's not Islam per se that is the threat, but religion in general, and particularly religious people who are willing to blindly obey anyone speaking for a deity. If we all stepped back and said "Wait a moment, why don't we let everyone have whatever religion he or she wants, as a personal matter? Let's get onto the problem about how to feed and water everyone in the world instead.". That's closer to what Jesus supposedly said in the Bible. But, whoever reads that musty old book anymore, right Nemo?
Since what "Islam in its purest form" might be has been argued over by Muslims for nearly the entire history of Islam, I doubt if any contribution Nemo has to make will be very enlightening. As with any good fundie, Nemo's references to Sun Tzu and Jesus show that he knows nothing much of either. Note also the transition from "it" (Islam) to "they" (Muslims), thereby presuming all Muslims to be guilty of what one or two might do on the other side of the world.
This would have been the point where I would say "go ahead, wipe each other out," were I in a worse mood.
Truth is however, that kind of stance would result in a ton of deaths on both sides, and let's not forget how many innocent bystanders will inevitably get killed as well.
Violence only begets violence.
"Respond to the aggressors with greater force, and only then can you hope to survive."
- The EXACT OPPOSITE of what Sun Tzu said.
"Respond to the aggressors with greater force, and only then can you hope to survive."
Sun Tzu did not write anything like that in the art of war and wasn't jesus more about turning cheeks?
Post-revolution Libya: wants diplomatic relations with Israel.
Azerbaijan; the only other Muslim country - apart from Iran - that is mainly Shia (but it's constitution protects the freedom & practicing of other religions, including Christianity): has full diplomatic relations with Israel. Is an ally of the US.
Egypt: Has full diplomatic relations with Israel.
Jordan: not only has full diplomatic relations with Israel, it considers that Jewish state to be a valuable ally in that region; is an ally of the US too.
Despite problems in the past, Oman has political/trade relations with Israel; Oman is an ally of the US. Oman is a long-time ally of the US, as well as the UK.
Kosovo. So pro -USA are Kosovar Muslims , they have a statue of Bill Clinton in it's capital, Pristina.
UAE is an ally of the US.
Saudi Arabia only allows the practice of Wahhabi Islam - and no other religion - in it's borders. It is an ally of the US.
...your point again, Little Nemo?
@gimel
I like the way you think : 'If. ' [/Spartan Laconic Wit]
If Nemo really wants to get down and duke it out with the Taliban, the US Army is always ready. Just sign on the dotted line, and you get three hots and a cot and free medical care all while you're showing the world what a terrorist-fighting stud you are.
Of course, it might also mean your mom and dad get to spend their elder years visiting you in the stone garden, and even a loser like Nemo probably has parents who want him alive.
Tell you what: if you stop egging on morons to burn mosques and wage war, I'll stop pointing out you're a cowardly chickenhawk.
"Confront them with annihilation, and they will then survive; plunge them into a deadly situation, and they will then live. When people fall into danger, they are then able to strive for victory."
"“You have heard that it was said, Eye for eye, and tooth for tooth.’[h] 39 But I tell you, do not resist an evil person. If anyone slaps you on the right cheek, turn to them the other cheek also. 40 And if anyone wants to sue you and take your shirt, hand over your coat as well. 41 If anyone forces you to go one mile, go with them two miles. 42 Give to the one who asks you, and do not turn away from the one who wants to borrow from you.
43 “You have heard that it was said, Love your neighbor and hate your enemy.’ 44 But I tell you, love your enemies and pray for those who persecute you, 45 that you may be children of your Father in heaven. He causes his sun to rise on the evil and the good, and sends rain on the righteous and the unrighteous. 46 If you love those who love you, what reward will you get? Are not even the tax collectors doing that? 47 And if you greet only your own people, what are you doing more than others? Do not even pagans do that? 48 Be perfect, therefore, as your heavenly Father is perfect."
If they want a war, give them a war. If they burn a church, burn a mosque. If they kill a pastor in Oman, shoot a mullah in San Diego.
Yeah. Because Jesus would totally be into that. Oh wait...
Why don't these ChristoFundies just admit that they worship the AntiChrist?
They're ascribing stuff to Jesus that are the antithesis of everything he said or did. They worship a Bizarro-Jesus of their own imaginings!
Nemo's Killer-Death Jesus of Doom.
Bill-O's Tax-Protester Jesus.
These folks are diseased!
If they burn a church, burn a mosque. If they kill a pastor in Oman, shoot a mullah in San Diego
By your logic we should punish a man that murders someone's father not by jailing or even killing the murderer, but by killing the murderer's father who had nothing to do with the crime. And what if the murderer hates his father (just as fundie Muslims hate liberal Muslims)? And specifically in the case of Muslim extremists, they can use the dead liberal Muslim they didn't care about as a rallying call to recruit more terrorists. Congratulations, you've just rewarded them for their bad deeds. Now they're more likely to do it again.
Respond to the aggressors with greater force, and only then can you hope to survive. Sun Tzu understood it, Jesus of Nazareth understood it
Jesus? The guy who could have nuked the Romans if he so wanted but instead went to the cross and died? The guy who preached turning the other cheek? THAT Jesus? Or was there some other Jesus of Nazareth floating around who went around killing random Romans?
Um, guys, this was me. And I was trolling someone who was ranting about how evil Islam is (not that I'm a huge fan of it myself). I didn't actually mean any of it. I only just realized this was quoted today when I was searching for a previous entry, but I apologize for the confusion.
Confused?
So were we! You can find all of this, and more, on Fundies Say the Darndest Things!
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