Is it scientifically possible that a thing can build something more intelligent than itself? The answer is a big NO.
The only reason why human DNA can transform into a more intelligent human BRAIN is because the transfomation is guided by someone more intelligent. Nothing can create something more intelligent than itself and that's a fact.
There MUST be a MAKER in between. That is science and most of all, that is COMMON SENSE.
Those who say there is no Creator are fools and devoid of common sense.
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" Nothing can create something more intelligent than itself and that's a fact. "
As demonstrated by fundies and their internet posts.
"Those who say there is no Creator are fools and devoid of common sense."
Who created the creator?
Is it scientifically possible that a thing can build something less intelligent than itself? The answer is a big YES.
The only reason why human DNA can transform into a less intelligent human BRAIN is because the transfomation is guided by someone less intelligent - name a preacher. It's all too easy to create something less intelligent than oneself and that's a fact.
Those who say there is a Creator are whistling in the dark and devoid of common sense. They simply cannot ever know for sure.
"Nothing can create something more intelligent than itself and that's a fact. "
Problem: were did this supreme intelligence come from? It couldn't have come from something less intelligent if you want your argument to stay consistent. So this supreme intelligence must have come from an even more supreme intelligence and so on and so forth. Of course you now establish a paradox of intelligence begetting intelligence ad infinitum without any actual cause, or you admit that your supreme intelligence came from nothing, thus negating your argument because if a supreme intelligence can come from nothing then why can't human evolution just have evolved from more primative intelligence?
There's all sorts of ways you can define "intelligent". Does intelligence requires sentience? If not, what is it based on? Actions per second? Computers can beat us there and we made 'em. Strategic ability? Computers again. Learning ability? They can do that too. Heck, for all we know computers might even be sentient - we've no way of knowing.
Regardless, since DNA does not intentionally form a brain (in the same way lightning doesn't intentionally form fires), the point is moot anyway.
So, who was more intelligent than god? You argue that nothing can come from anything that isn't more intelligent. So, in order to remain consistent, you have to accept that someone, or some thing, created god.
How would you explain that?
***Edited to say that now that I've read other comments, Osiris stated this much better than I did.
You're an idiot.
Not only can things be created to respond to stimuli more efficiently than normal humans, but a database can also be created to pool the knowledge of numerous people. Hence, most encyclopaedias, even Wikipedia, contain far more information than any human, does that mean they were not created by humans?
"Nothing can create something more intelligent than itself and that's a fact."
The only proof of this theory lies with your parents, who did indeed NOT create an offspring smarter than themselves.
Nirjuana :
I memorized 200 digits of pi when I was in high school.
I guess it was easier than trying to, you know, actually get a date .
"Is it scientifically possible that a thing can build something more intelligent than itself?"
Exhibit A: My parents.
Exhibit B: Myself.
Since evolution is blind and guided only by reproductive success, it is totally possible that something could have smarter offspring, especially considering that no actual intelligence is needed to have offspring.
We can see this in Exhibit C, a dumbass who had a baby recently. The baby is as complex as any other human and has a similar capacity for learning, though it was born into poverty and will probably sell drugs its entire life.
"Nothing can create something more intelligent than itself and that's a fact."
No, that is a completely false assumption you have made up to back an incorrect argument.
Except that evolution isn't guided by the lifeform's intelligence nor is it guided by an outside intelligence, it is simply the result of mutation and natural selection. Natural selection may very well select the brighter members of a species if being brighter provides a survival/breeding advantage.
"Is it scientifically possible that a thing can build something more intelligent than itself? The answer is a big NO."
Do not confuse the fact that you Fundies raise your children to be dumber than you with the ability to create something better.
"Is it scientifically possible that a thing can build something more intelligent than itself? The answer is a big NO. "
Computers?
And the fact that I've a higher IQ than both of my parents? And I'm not alone in that, a LOT of people are the same.
This reminds me of an old Dilbert cartoon. At a staff meeting, the pointy-haired manager said that the secret of a good manager is to hire people smarter than yourself. At that point, someone said "so that would make your boss dumber than you." Someone else said "and his boss would be even dumber yet." Then Dilbert chimed in "that would make the CEO the dumbest person in the company!" The manager announce that the meeting was over.
Is Spiderman2 saying that Einstein's parents were smarter than he was? And his grandparents even smarter yet? Why haven't we heard of these miraculous people?
You neglect the possibilities of collaboration, you fail to see how arbitrary the definition of "intelligence" is, and you completely ignore that computers and either such inventions of mankind could be considered to be more intelligent than their creators and designers in certain respects. The idea that a person cannot contribute to the design of something greater than themselves is an oversimplification at best...a handy rule of thumb that still proves nothing.
Is it scientifically possible that a thing can build something more intelligent than itself?
I have seen two dumb as a stump rednecks produce a child who was a genius, so yes.
"There MUST be a MAKER in between. That is science and most of all, that is COMMON SENSE."
No it isn't and using caps lock won't make it so.
The only reason why human DNA can transform into a more intelligent human BRAIN is because the transfomation is guided by someone more intelligent.
Is he seriously saying that god somehow gets involved in cell replication and differentiation during development, and that it couldn't happen without divine intervention?
Even other fundies understand that this is a deterministic process. What an idiot.
Aaaaaannnnd... how many computations can you make per second? And that compares to a quad core processor how?
Actually, you sound like you're running an 8086, there. DNA isn't intelligent and doesn't 'build' anything in the way you're suggesting. They merely contain the code by which organisms are built. It is through evolution that our minds have become so developed. You know... environmental stresses requiring us to develop higher reasoning and whatnot. Something which obviously skipped you.
1. By this logic, everything gets dumber over time. People, dogs, etc. This doesn't seem to be correlated with reality. We have always had dumb people.
2. I got a brain-buster for you Spiderman2: I have an ice-maker in my refrigerator. Which is more intelligent, the fridge or the ice?
While you are pondering that one, maybe you clean the deep-fryer and make sure the mens room is stocked with paper towels.
"Is it scientifically possible that a thing can build something more intelligent than itself? The answer is a big NO."
fail, we made the f-ing blue gene supercompuer, more intelligent than humans, I think so.
> There MUST be a MAKER in between. That is science and most of all, that is COMMON SENSE.
Except when God decides to have sex with a random woman.
Even if your, ahem, "logic", would not be horribly flawed and debunked million times already, how would you no that there is only a creator and not creators?
Each human is a mix of two other human beings. They together can create a human that is more intelligent than either of them, separately.
You wouldn't recognize COMMON SENSE if it danced naked in front of you, stupid.
If it is indeed science, then please provide the scientific evidence for this MAKER, this Creator, and please include his IQ, to show that he is indeed more intelligent than we are.
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