In my arguments over the years against abortion, I have often made the case that pro abortion forces are really akin to the fervor and ruthlessness of the nazis, in that, the nazis viewed the Jews as non human, and therefore justified their killing.
We have over the decades now seen over and over the pro death crowd, do the exact same thing, in that they justify their killing of millions of innocent babies, by trying to convince everyone they are not really human. Who knows in the future, we might hear this same argument being made about those so called extreme zealot Christians being deserving of death or punishment because after all, they really aren't truly apart of humanity, the global community has deemed positive and supportive of the New Age.
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No, Christian fundies are part of humanity, an annoying part of humanity, but a part nevertheless. So no one is going to justify killing you. But we would appreciate it if you would keep your beliefs to yourself and leave everyone that doesn't agree with you ALONE!
You know, it isn't legal to perform an abortion after a certain developmental stage. There is a definition of when human life starts, and it is not at conception. Most abortions are performed before the end of the first trimester when the "fetus" is little more than a collection of cells.
Yeah, because identifying a class of physical humans based on religion to be inhuman as entirely the same as a clump of cells that might not even make it full term to start with.
You guys have a very large persectuion complex, don't you
I have often made the case that pro abortion forces are really akin to the fervor and ruthlessness of the nazis...
Could you repeat that, please? I had trouble hearing you over the sound of shoveling sub-Humans into the oven.
Well, you're certainly wrong about everything else you bang on about, misrepresenting the facts and deliberately lying or just being moronic. You definitely have no credibility left. So I wonder if you apply the same standards to the subject of abortion? I wonder?
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You FAIL, muthafucka!
Yes, because a walking, talking, sentient jew or christian is exactly like a clump of cells which when removed from the host body it resides in will die.
They justify their killing of millions of innocent cows by trying to convince everyone they are not really human. Who knows? In the future, we might hear this same argument being made by those so called extreme beef eaters who really want to eat human flesh.
Same stupid "slippery slope" logic.
No one likes abortion but some of us recognise that sometimes it's necessary and preferable than the consequences of not having one. Plus of course it's the individual women themselves who get to choose, not some bloke who has no conception (geddit?!) of what a difficult decision it must be. Only those whom it affects the most can know how an unwanted pregnancy and bringing up a child can impact on their lives. Stop thinking in terms of monolithic blocks, of them and us and show a little of that Christian compassion that is supposedly at the heart of every believer. All I see is mean-spiritedness and an attempt to done the mantle of victim-hood.
So you've been arguing pro-life stances for years, and never realized that the opposition is in favor of choice, not aborting babies.
This is a legitimate question. If you ever read this please respond.
Are you retarded, or willfully ignorant?
@Kremlin KOA
Yes, but to what level? To the level that it is capable of controlling heartbeat and nothing else, or functional to the level that the clump of cells it belongs to has its own thoughts, emotions, and sense of self that the human incubator carrying it has? I'm betting on the former.
Have you ever convinced anyone of the validity of your arguments? Consider all those years and all the time you've wasted, Jeff.
Would not a sincere and profound re-evaluation of your opinions and point of view serve you better?
It would help prevent the usual occurrence of getting the shit kicked out of you by intelligent women.
Everyone seems to forget that by arguing about when life begins in the womb, you erase an entire class of living people whose bodies and lives this affects, and who are already here .
Is there just a magic time in which you're "innocent", then when you hit eighteen, you can expect the same condescending treatment as your predecessors?
We have over the decades now seen over and over the pro death crowd, do the exact same thing, in that they justify their killing of millions of innocent babies, by trying to convince everyone they are not really human
This sounds more like another group we all love to hate, instead of atheists and/or liberals.
You've managed to blend a Godwin with a slippery slope fallacy, confusing fetuses and babies, and topped it all off with Christian persecution paranoia--well done!
Now, to business....
Godwin argument? You lose. Besides that, you're wrong. It wasn't abortionists that put the Jews in death camps. It was the Nazis--who outlawed abortion, by the way. Most of them were Christians who blamed the Jews for the death of Christ. A compound failure--congratulations!
As for your arguments against abortion, repeat after me: Abortion is not about killing babies . Babies have nothing to do with abortion. Nobody is "pro abortion".
Most of the people who have been trying to set Christians apart from the rest of humanity are CHRISTIANS.
@Kremlin: "Now I am not anti abortion, but I am against pretending it is not killing."
Anyone who says otherwise is ignorant, but let me just say that no one sheds a tear over using antibacterial soap. Lifeforms are killed, and these life forms are more mature/better able to survive than the human embryos.
Confused?
So were we! You can find all of this, and more, on Fundies Say the Darndest Things!
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