WHAT we all seem to be forgetting amid Richard Dawkins' new book and his claims is that he is just a man with an opinion.
He is a world-renowned atheist who chooses to forget one of the biggest questions of all: where did we all come from? If we choose to believe his claim of there being no such thing as God, this question remains unanswered. However, if you look at the option of a divine creator God, this question is answered and also makes perfect sense.
Dawkins' theory defies the governing rules of science, especially, "From nothing, nothing comes." He therefore implies that something can come from nothing, which we all know is ridiculous. If you look at the option of an ETERNAL creator God, then our existence makes sense, as we were created by someone who has always been there.
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scientists do not claim that anything came from nothing, stop confusing science with your retarded religious claims.
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And how the hell is he NOT thinking about “where did we all come from?” when he rejected religion? That exactly what he was looking at. He would like the same answers to life’s questions that you would. Only he’s not content with your assertion that using anything to fill the hole caused by these questions is Goddidit’. I is astonishing how you reject his “From nothing, nothing comes” statement yet you believe before the creation of anything, god already existed. You have the same questions, only YOU gave up on finding the real answers.
Dear Matt,
Then perhaps there was never nothing’. We need to accept that, possibly, the universe has always been here (in one form or another) thus your assertion that there had to be a creator is rendered moot.
["From nothing, nothing comes."
"He therefore implies that something can come from nothing"]
This really deserve a failed logic award.
OK, I know better than to ask a fundy where god came from. So, may I ask, where was god and what was he doing in the time before he had created anything? Just floating around in the "void," or what?
Matt is a quite ignorant, stupid fundie. Hence, his incomprehension does not prove anything.
Richard Dawkins is a genious, however so if he was to see a fault, I would buy that.
However, one does not need half of Dawkins' intelligence to see through all the bullshit in the Babble.
He is a world-renowned atheist who chooses to forget one of the biggest questions of all: where did we all come from? If we choose to believe his claim of there being no such thing as God, this question remains unanswered. However, if you look at the option of a divine creator, the Flying Spaghetti Monster, this question is answered and also makes perfect sense.
Theists like to claim that nothing can come fron nothing so god must be the answer. Then this god seemingly defies everything because he's he's uncaused(they can't even follow their own premise),he has always been, and the human mind can't grasp him. I call that a big fucking cop out answer intellectually lazy people use.
Yes. Perfect sense.
...Not.
Just because science has yet to answer a question does not mean that belief in a fairy tale is the right answer.
And, I agree with BobDole, it's obvious you haven't read the book.
There's just the little problem of replacing the intractable problem of something coming from nothing with the intractable problem of an external creator that has always existed. Yeah, sorry, don't quite see how that wraps up the whole debate.
Don't fret kids, this clown was pwned by a letter-writing dude who was published the next day. There has been quite a bit of discussion in The Age (Melbourne's least offensive newspaper) about atheism etc. thanks to Dawkins book and Root Of All Evil being aired here recently. I even got a letter published myself about some retard who had problems with the song Imagine by John Lennon because it promotes secular values and as we all know, the only way you can have a moral society is to fill it with religious people.
*cough*America*cough*
Dawkins' theory defies the governing rules of science, especially, "From nothing, nothing comes." He therefore implies that something can come from nothing, which we all know is ridiculous.
No, you moron, the rule is "nothing is created, nothing is lost, everything is transformed", and it talks about matter and energy. Life is simply a complex organization of matter, for the electrons and protons which make up your atoms there is little difference between being part of a living organism, of a stone or of a star....
This really isn't that fundie, but then again I'm coming at this from a Christian viewpoint, so I might be a tad biased.
Still, while the whole 'from nothing, nothing comes' thing does have its flaws, according to the Bible God created the universe out of nothing... so technically, it's true no matter how you look at it. Besides, how the Universe began is something we'd probably never find out anyway. I wouldn't call God creating the universe something that makes 'perfect sense', but it has just as much validation as any other theory out there. Other than the Big Bang, but you could argue that was caused by whatever you like too.
EDIT: Turns out, I haven't read Dawkin's book, either. If he really was talking about the conservation of matter, and this quote just warped it into the 'nothing is nothing' thing, I apologize.
That question might be answered with a deity creating us, but then comes the question "Where did that deity come from?".
Does Dawking have a scientific theory about where we came from?
If that deity have always been there, then perhaps the Universe has always been here too.
Nothing you have said so far makes any sense to me.
We came from a common species that branched out into various primate families and genera, such as our family Hominidae and our genus Homo. The wide-open area around our cluster of planets orbiting a star came from the big bang and said cluster formed from space gas.
Also, the Big Bang's initial form was a singularity, not nothing. So from singularity universe comes.
In quantum physics it turns out that "something from nothing" happens all the time.
If you propose a God then you should explain why and how it came into being , how it does things and why its actions appear to match the average human 3 year old. Surely an ageless , all powerful being would be above "you ate my fruit, God smash ! "
Eternalness just avoids a lot of questions.
Confused?
So were we! You can find all of this, and more, on Fundies Say the Darndest Things!
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