[Question for debate: What is absolute truth?]
Want evidence of the truth of the bible? Well lets look at what evidence is!
[...]
I can show you "evidence" of how God created the earth through the land and sea and all the life forms that are within.
But still, that person may CHOOSE to deny the evidence.
Here's a thought;
Perhaps suggest this little experiment.
Exhale all the air from your lungs, and do NOT take a breath for one minute.
Without oxygen, the lungs can not function.
If the lungs no longer function, the heart will not be able to pump blood to sustain life.
Where does the oxygen that we need to live come from ?
There's some "evidence"
But still, that person may CHOOSE to deny the evidence.
Basically, through my own personal observations and life experiences, you can NOT prove anything to anybody if they're not able to be open minded enough to consider any other conclusion than their own.
[Fundie mirror award material]
44 comments
My god, with the exception of those first two sentences, it's all true.
Mirror Mirror? Or So Close, Yet So Far?
So your experiment demonstrates that if you don't inhale oxygen, you will pass out and start breathing again. What does that have to do with choosing not to believe evidence?
Or does this person believe that God magically provides us with oxygen, or something like that?
And yes, mirror award. Definitely mirror award.
Yeah, what cousin Ted said.
And, of course, Madeline, you're a moron.
She should have picked a longer time period than a single minute. I regularly exhale as much as possible and sink to the bottom of swimming pools for over a minute.
As for why I would do this, it's decent exercise for something of which this person certainly would not approve.
Edit : corrected a stupid comprehension error.
Exhale all the air from your lungs, and do NOT take a breath for one minute.
Without oxygen, the lungs can not function.
If the lungs no longer function, the heart will not be able to pump blood to sustain life.
Where does the oxygen that we need to live come from ?
A little thing called photosynthesis, my spectacularly obtuse acquaintance.
I mean, the problem with fundies is that they think that everybody is in their tribe. Which "evidence" are they speaking about?. I mean, it´s just something that not everybody accepts(2/3 of world are not Christians). It´s a matter of faith.
Maybe I'm really dense but I don't get her "experiment" at all. So in order to prove God she would ask me to hold my breath and after a minute she would stand there with a smug face and say "See?".
I suppose that's why Christianity doesn't work on me anymore, I must have lost my appreciation for incongruous analogies.
Perhaps suggest this little experiment.
Step off a 100 foot cliff. Do not wear a parachute. When you hit the bottom you will remove your stupid self from the gene pool. You will not produce any stupid children. There's some "evidence". You won't be able to appreciate it because you're dead, but the rest of us will be better off without your fundie nonsense screwing up society.
Wow, so many award possibilities here: Mirror Award, "So Close, Yet So Far" Award, or "There Go The Last Shreds of Science" Award. I just can't decide!
~David D.G.
Where does the oxygen that we need to live come from ?
There's some "evidence"
How is asking a question "evidence"?
There are life forms that not only don't need oxygen, but are actually killed by it. It's believed that the earliest forms of life evolved in a relatively oxygen-free atmosphere. Oxygen, which is a waste product of photosynthesis, gradually accumulated and allowed the evolution of oxygen-breathing organisms. So Madeline has it backwards: oxygen wasn't created for us to breathe; we evolved to breathe the oxygen.
"Without oxygen, the lungs can not function.
If the lungs no longer function, the heart will not be able to pump blood to sustain life."
Me: I think they need to study respiration.
"Where does the oxygen that we need to live come from ?"
Me:Plants?
"As for why I would do this, it's decent exercise for something of which this person certainly would not approve." -- Bob_Zimmerman
Oh man, you can't say things like that and not explain!
Made a line ________ probably had this explained to her but since then she's forgotten key elements and this is what's left. She even puts her own "evidence" in "quotation" marks, so I have to "wonder" if she's all that bright and doesn't realize that doing "that" means it's not really evidence.
I'm sticking with the Flying Spaghetti Monster, he ceated oxygen with his noodly appendage using his mighty powers of for all of Pastafarianism. RAmen to that brother balls! And you can't tell me it's not real .. I found a listing for His Pastaself in Wikipedia. How's that for "evidence" little miss line maker!
Aha, Evidence! Truth! indeed, both beautiful and perfect things. Perhaps then, come truth.
If you were to hold your breath for 1 minuet, or 2, perhaps 3 your heart would still pump blood to your brain. You see, your heart is a muscle, and as such its purpose is to pump, much like yours is, apparently, to be an raving idiot. It appears that, while you have CHOOSEN the wrong example, it is after all, wrong. You are certinly correct about people denying obvious and supported evidence, indeed I'm sure you see it all the time, all you need to do is look in a mirror.
The oxygen that we breathe now, comes from plants "exhaling". The increased oxygen in the atmosphere a few hundred million years ago or so, was a lot of organisms dying and releasing oxygen in the air. The increased oxygen killed off most lifeforms at that time. Our ancestors managed to survive the increase.
But that's all evidence of evolution. So, when are we going to get to evidence of your particular god? How was he created?
image
Confused?
So were we! You can find all of this, and more, on Fundies Say the Darndest Things!
To post a comment, you'll need to Sign in or Register . Making an account also allows you to claim credit for submitting quotes, and to vote on quotes and comments. You don't even need to give us your email address.