HAM: Now you said something in my office this morning — you nearly got thrown out — when you used the word “evolve”— What did you tell me about Pokémon and evolve?

STAFFER: Pokémon evolve.

HAM: What is that?

STAFFER: Apparently, you give them candy and they become stronger.

HAM: So they evolve.

STAFFER: Yes.

HAM: — That’s no good for the Creation Museum.

STAFFER (laughing): It doesn’t take millions of years, though.

HAM: It happens immediately?

STAFFER: Pretty much!

HAM: So is that evidence against evolution or—? So Pokémon evolves—

[Later]

STAFFER: You want to try to evolve one?

HAM: I don’t believe in evolution— Okay, so what do you do?

STAFFER: Press “evolve.”

HAM: Press “evolve.”

STAFFER: Press “Yes.”

HAM: Yeah— now what?

STAFFER: The bird is evolving.

HAM: Let’s see what happens. Okay—

STAFFER: It has evolved into a bigger, better bird, apparently.

HAM: But it’s still a bird! It’s still a bird! That’s not evolution! It should have evolved into something else!— It definitely shows that birds remain birds.