James, I really choked on your statement: "First, biological evolution has nothing whatsoever to do with the origin of the observable world."
Consider an extract from Berkely website: http://evolution.berkeley.edu/ ...
The central idea of biological evolution
Through the process of descent with modification,
Evolution means that we're all distant cousins:
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"Evolution means that we're all distant cousins:
Yes.
Is that so horrible?
(I mean, I'm also related to the bubonic plague, but every family has its shames).
You know, theot, if 'the observable world' meant the same as 'all living animals', you wouldn't sound like the idiot you currently do.
"Evolution means that we're all distant cousins:
- And the problem here is...what now?
Read any biology text book on evolution or Darwins book and they all assert that from a common ancestor ALL the living forms emerged.
The keyword here being 'living': Stars, planet, atoms, etc. are not alive. Evolution is only applicable to living things, not the rest of the universe.
"Read any biology text book on evolution or Darwins book and they all assert that from a common ancestor ALL the living forms emerged."
Yes, and THAT is JUST AN EVOLUTION. HOW that common ancestor APPEARED is COMPLETELY DIFFERENT THING.
What's more beautiful, the Sky Bully making everything and throwing hissy fits, or all creatures being related, a common, distant family of life, spreading and finding unique ways to survive and prosper, bringing life to a dead world?
He is exactly correct. Biology has nothing to do with the origin of the observable world. It may have a lot to do with life that evolved after the world originated, but that is a different issue. One that apparently goes beyond your ability to reason. Try reading those biology text books a bit closer and concentrate on comprehending what they actually say.
Yes. That's exactly what "every living thing on Earth shares a common ancestor" means.
So yes, this means that you're related, albeit distantly, to whales, hummingbirds, and oak trees, and even more distantly from amoebas, bacteria and archaea. But they're still your very, very distant cousins on the same family tree. You're made of the same basic building blocks and the most basic instruction sets your cells follow are the same.
So what's the problem?
Evolution means that we're all distant cousins:
Not really. Know what does?
Spoilers:
Edit: I read his post wrong and I feel about as stupid as he does.
"Evolution means that we're all distant cousins:
Yep.
"First, biological evolution has nothing whatsoever to do with the origin of the observable world ."
and
The central idea of biological evolution is that ALL life on Earth shares a common ancestor,
are absolutely not mutually exclusive.
Try again.
Read any biology text book on evolution or Darwins book and they all assert that from a common ancestor ALL the living forms emerged.
And they all say precisely nothing about where that common ancestor came from. You're perfectly free to think god created the original lifeform. I, and most Christians, already do so.
Confused?
So were we! You can find all of this, and more, on Fundies Say the Darndest Things!
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