I thought it is the educated who believe in God while the less educated look at science to disprove God. Einstein was a great scientist and he was a christian. How about that ? Is he ‘uneducated’? Einstein believed in Jesus Christ & theGod of the bible and his scientific success was based on bible facts. Einstein took those facts and used science to prove it, changing our lives permanently for the better.
[after being challenged]
By calling me a liar re einstein, you are revealling yourselves. Google him and find out about his writings on christian theology. Maybe he can be found on the web. I don’t know.
[the next post]
My apologies people. It is another jew, isaac newton NOT einstein. Sorry. LOL.
[after finding out that Newton was Christian]
Fine, so he’s not a jew but I thought he was .. his name — anyway, it was not intended as a lie. You know it. So stop being so quarrelsome. Other than the post I recd about newton and the bible code, I really have no interest in him. I know from the post that was sent to me, that newton was a christian and I may be wrong, but it was written as if he was a jew— anyway — I’m not going to argue this.
[I was referring to the errors in fact that you made with regard to Albert Einstein and Isaac Newton and did not correct immediately when the errors were pointed out. These errors were not ones what any reasonably educated person would have made.]
heck — I don’t ‘study’ einstein or newton or some other jews. I confuse their names — big deal. I know most famous scientists are jews, anyway.
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A blithering ignoramus to be sure but not really fundie, is he. If you read the whole post he takes on a bit of fundism but not much. Topaz is the perfect example of the art of speaking out of ones arse. He also makes the common, and arrogant, mistake of attempting to prove the xtian bible truthful and fact by quoting the bible to prove the bible. Into the circular file you go, topaz.
Einstein believed in Jesus Christ & theGod of the bible and his scientific success was based on bible facts.
No it wasn't. But if you're so sure then please tell where the biblical basis for relativity are... or particle-wave duality?
I don’t study’ einstein or newton
Oh, you don't? Then why are you making claims about their scientific achievements? Do you know anything about physics? No? Then shut the fuck up already!
"I don’t know."
Truer words were never spoken.
What the hell? A tertiary education was once something to be proud of, but with the proliferation of low cost, low standard colleges and the prevailing belief that everyone, no matter how stupid, deserves a degree, it's becoming a rather fruitless goal. At any rate, one indication of an educated mind is the ability engage in debate witout resorting to ridiculous lines such as "I know most famous scientists are jews, anyway."
PassingThrough,
He is a fundie, he erroneously invokes experts in fields other than religion, in order to support his claims about God and religion.
Most scientists are, at best, agnostic or atheist, or very lukeward deists.
Very few/none are fundies.
Argumentum ad rectum. This is just pathetic; nearly every item of verifiable fact that he states is completely wrong, and even when he(?) acknowledges it, he just gets defensive about being called on it.
If you don't know what you're talking about, quit talking about it , except to ask questions so that you can learn enough to be able to talk about it. Slinging baseless assertions, stereotypes, and wild guesses won't get you very far in any kind of discussion (except, I suppose with anyone who's even more ignorant than you are -- but I can't imagine wanting to talk with such a person).
~David D.G.
Big confusion of faiths award. Well, let me tell you something. Many scientists are agnostic, not atheist and there is a big difference. Agnostic people don´t say the don´t believe in God. They only say that science can´t prove its existence. Indeed, what you have to understand is that scientist can´t, in good faith, believe what the Bible says taken literarily, because the Bible writters were not believers. Nobody uses science to discredit God, they discredit the idea some people have of God and want to impose into others, if not preventing science do its work.
I agreed with PassingThrough at first:
A blithering ignoramus to be sure but not really fundie......
But as the thread goes on topaz decides that those pointing out his factual errors are possessed by demons and attempts some sort of internet exorcism:
..it became obvious that you, McCulloch are 2 entities. The human and a spirit. It is clear that the spirit is addressing me, cunningly deceiving me to believe that I am actually talking to a human.
In the name of Jesus Christ of Nazareth, I command you, spirit, to reveal yourself.
Definitely fundie.
I wish I had a nickel for every Christian fundie that claimed Einstein was a Christian. NEWSFLASH!!! Look at the name ! He was Jewish by birth (ironically, just like Jesus was...), and later in life adopted a kind of agnostic-deisim.
But he was never a Christian. This is like when Fox News decided to make Foley a Democrat. They can't stand up against Einstein, so they recast him as a Christian theologian. Sheesh.
What is priceless is how he at first evokes Einstein as authoritative support of his position, then when the fact that Einstein was a Jew is pointed out, he claims that as the reason he never paid any attention to Einstein. This guy is more confused than Whitney Houston in a house made of crack.
Or, as I suppose is more appropriate: OY!
Wow, he gets everything wrong in a spectacular fashion, and then gets testy when corrected. What an excellent example of fundie apologetics. (Julian, I laughed at the picture.)
Wow - the shifting sands of logic!
Although, accidentally, this person has stumbled on one very good point. Only the ignorant think science is about to disproving God - generally raving fundies who are trying to discredit science because it disagrees with them.
That statement almost deserves a Shiny Mirror.
Just for the record, this is from "Albert Einstein: The Human Side", edited by Helen Dukas and Banesh Hoffman and published by Princeton University Press:
"It is, of course, a lie what you read about my religious convictions, a lie which is being systematically repeated. I do not believe in a personal god and I have never denied this but have expressed it clearly. If something is in me which can be called religious then it is the unbounded admiration for the structure of the universe so far as our science can reveal it."
From a letter Einstein wrote in English, dated March 24, 1954.
OK, let me work this out. Let's see, you're an idiot, yes, and an asshole, hmm, and a liar. The trifecta of Fundamentalism. YOU WIN! No, wait, uh, you lose.
"I thought it is the educated who believe in God while the less educated look at science to disprove God.
I really cannot get over the palpable stupidity in that line. Just fucking wow.
SMART people believe blindly in an ancient book found in the desert, DUMB people believe years of documented studies and observations that can be repeated and shown to be true. Bizzaro World.[
My apologies people. It is another jew, isaac newton NOT einstein. Sorry. LOL
Apology followed by anti-semitic remark and topped with a LOL. I want to punch this guy in the face.
You lie, you little toad. Einstein was not a Christian. If he believed in anything (which is debatable), it was in a Spinozan god (look it up, if you know how)- a god that couldn't be further from the ridiculous and psychotic little god you and your fellows profess to believe in.
Confused?
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