Yes, women should be submissive. God made Adam to tend to His garden and the beasts, and He created Eve from Adam to tend to Adam. Eve, through her treachery, caused them both to be expelled from the garden, and it is her punishment to be subservient to Adam.
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So, oh wise one, please explain this
1. How did A&E KNOW it was wrong to eat the fruit? Sure, sky daddy said no, but he created them without a sense of right or wrong. It made them that way.
2. If this was such a big no-no, why did it put that tree in the garden in the firt place?
3. Since you claim it is omniscient, that means it KNEW what was going to happen so it set A&E up for a fall.
4. Since it knew, why did let the serpent into the garden?
More proof that you gawd is a psychopath.
No, God created Eve from Adam in only one of the creation stories in Genesis. In the other one, they are created simultaneously. When will you people stop talking about The Creation Story in Genesis, when there are two of them?
And this is why rational people don't take the bible seriously. Because rational people don't believe in treating women like shit because of some obviously fictional story written in an ancient book. I mean, it really sounds silly to hear that women should be treated as second class citizens because one of them a long time ago listened to a talking snake.
Eve: Want a bite of my apple?
Adam: I know I'm not supposed to, but, okay!
How is that treachery on Eve's part?
Whaddyamean, blame Eve? You just said that she was CREATED to serve him, so it's god's fault, not hers. And you've just explained, very concisely, why women are leaving religion in record numbers AND they're taking the kids with them. Have fun preaching that nonsense to a congregation composed entirely of old men, fumbling in their pockets.
She didn't make him eat the thing. He chose to. It's by your own logic that this makes him culpable. Otherwise neither of them would be, rendering your whole religion utterly pointless. Within its own canon, I mean. Obviously it's already utterly pointless in the real world.
"Her treachery?" If anyone was treacherous in that stupid-ass story, it was God. He tried to prevent knowledge from existing, and he still left the tree where two people who basically had the minds of children could get ahold of it, without them being able to comprehend the consequences.
Eve, through her treachery, caused them both to be expelled from the garden
What "treachery"? Don't you even read your own damn book?
"And when the woman saw that the tree was good for food, and that it was pleasant to the eyes, and a tree to be desired to make one wise, she took of the fruit thereof, and did eat, and gave also unto her husband with her; and he did eat."
I don't see her tricking him or pleading with him or tempting him. He was with her when she picked the fruit and he didn't make any attempt to stop her. She just picked the fruit, ate it, and gave him the fruit, too. He ate it of his own free will without any objection or argument.
according to your mythology, what would have happened to men if Adam had eaten the fruit first? (which could have happened pretty easily if the story is to be believed). would men have to be subservient to women and also have a really painful time shitting or something?
maybe you should have a little empathy for the bullet you dodged and stop acting like children in your behavior and beliefs towards women.
What was Adam Planting? They were created with everything needed, the "toiling in the fields" started after "the Fall". It's the father/provider scenario, disobey, get the fuck out, that's the message of Eden.
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