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In our comings and goings, we all run across people who are dead-set on believing that we Christians are involved in a psychological delusion, that the Bible is full of contradictions and fallacies, and that Jesus was nothing more than a mythological character.

The fact that these people are wrong (and spiritually dead) is a foregone conclusion. But I'm curious as to what are the social and psychological factors that would lead someone to such an erroneous conclusion. Why do they think this way to begin with?

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old comment by Anon-e-moose

"In our comings and goings, we all run across people who are dead-set on believing that we Christians are involved in a psychological delusion, that the Bible is full of contradictions and fallacies, and that Jesus was nothing more than a mythological character."

'Properly read, the Bible is the most potent force for Atheism ever conceived'

-Isaac Asimov

Have you tried reading your Bible, dad4jesus?

Properly?

"The fact that these people are wrong (and spiritually dead) is a foregone conclusion. But I'm curious as to what are the social and psychological factors that would lead someone to such an erroneous conclusion. Why do they think this way to begin with?"

'Spirit'? 'Erroneous conclusion'? The conclusion that we Atheists have come to, which proves that a 'spirit' doesn't exist (thus there's no 'Heaven' to go to, is due to the fact you fundies have yet to produce any evidence that proves a 'spirit' and a 'Heaven' exists (and thus, by definition, a 'God' exists). That you & your ilk have yet, to date, produce any evidence means we have come to the conclusion that your 'beliefs' & 'faith' are nothing more than complete bollocks. And that's not erroneous, neither. It's Fact.

But then, facts are based on the one thing that completely destroys erroneous religious 'belief':

Evidence.

Ergo, Atheism. QED.

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Exodus 20:13:Thou shalt not kill.

1 Samuel 15:3: Now go and smite Amalek, and utterly destroy all that they have, and spare them not; but slay both man and woman, infant and suckling, ox and sheep, camel and ass.
Numbers 31:17: Now therefore kill every male among the little ones, and kill every woman that hath known man by lying with him. (we won't even discuss keeping the 32000 virgins alive to rape later)
Exodus 31:15: Six days may work be done; but in the seventh is the sabbath of rest, holy to the Lord: whosoever doeth any work in the sabbath day, he shall surely be put to death.
Deuteronomy 21:18-21: Instructs how to deal with disobedient children:
21 And all the men of his city shall stone him with stones, that he die: so shalt thou put evil away from among you; and all Israel shall hear, and fear.

Now what was that about not killing again?

Nope, no contradictions there. Perfectly clear, consistent message.

old comment by Swede

Why do we think this way? Due to lack of evidence, and even common sense, on the side of religions. We read parts of the Bible, some even read the whole thing. The more you learn, the less sense it makes, and the more contradictions you find. The more you learn about Christians, fundamentalists especially, the less they seem to follow what Christ allegedly said, and more what Paul and Calvin said.

We are not just dead-set on believing that Christians are involved in a psychological delusion, we are dead-set on believing that ALL religious people are involved in such a delusion, that ALL religious texts are full of contradictions and fallacies, that ALL religious characters are mythological. There is nothing special, really, with Christianity...

old comment by Dr. Shrinker

"...we all run across people who are dead-set on believing that we Christians are involved in a psychological delusion,"

- After watching the hype around Harold Camping's 'guaranteed' date for the end of the world, and comparing it with all the other 'guaranteed' dates in history, its hard to not to think that way.

"...that the Bible is full of contradictions and fallacies,..."

- The gospel of John makes a point that Jesus died before the Passover sedar. The other gospels make a point of saying that the crucifixion occurred after the sedar. Either John r the synoptic authors made a deliberate point that had to be wrong.

"...and that Jesus was nothing more than a mythological character."

- Jesus walked on water and turned water into wine, just like Dionysus. He was killed by his enemies and returned to life, just like Osiris. He predicted the future, just like Apllonius of Tyana. He returned the dead to life, just like Asclepius. I don't know if Jesus was a mythological figure, but he sure ripped off his act from mythological figures.

"Why do they think this way to begin with?"

- Somehow I get the feeling that you don't really want to know.

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