Ok...this is symptomatic of retardation now...Our planet is hyper-unique due to some outside force. We did not start from "Two Ti-i-i-i-i-i-iny amoeba in a warm pond" but let's say we did...for that is moot in relation to my point which is:
No matter how many times you roll the dice, you will never come close to replicating life. On the spiritual side, God has not made any others, on the scientific side, it was a chance in a googleplex to the googleplex power that it worked. Even if chance decided to travel sequentially, and not repeat itself many times over, time does not permit this miracle to occur again. write a comic book or make a movie, let your alternate planet exist there, because it absolutely will not exist in this cosmos or a parallel cosmos. If you are not spiritual, you are a mighty lonely meatpuppet...adrift in a sea of black, saddled upon a spinning sphere that hangs on nothing. Life is short...live it long!
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Heh, all you need to do im most cases is to have sex without a condom, and hey presto, you've just replicated life! -As to the old "alone in the universe" thingy, we'll get back to that after you have scoured every single planet in the universe with a very fine comb, shall we?
One point to you, though, for "Life is short...live it long!"...But that's not a very christian wiew, is it? are you not supposed to be happier the sooner you die and can go to heaven?
The Milky Way galaxy ALONE is between 100,000 and 120,000 light years across and contains between 200 and 400 billion stars and maybe the same number of planets. Of those planets, maybe 10 billion are in the habitable zone around their stars. And we have no bloody idea whether most of those planets can or do support life.
Stating that this planet MUST be unique just proves that you get lost when dealing with very large numbers.
..."it was a chance in a googleplex to the googleplex power that it worked."
Certain chemical reactions are inevitable when those certain chemicals are subjected to certain conditions... sorry if I'm making this sound too complex...
I don't believe the current theory of evolution should be considered complete, comprehensive, and fault free, but I do believe it offers the soundest basis for learning that we currently have. We are always learning something new, and we are always adding more data. And yes, some of it will overturn previous data and theories... but the basic Darwinian model is never completely thrown out.
Perhaps there is intelligent design... perhaps the intelligence is part of the design, rather than separate and exalted from it.
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"Perhaps there is intelligent design... perhaps the intelligence is part of the design, rather than separate and exalted from it."
Makes sense to me. I always felt that Deity, Creation, The Spirit Realm & Afterlife were one and the same, a Pantheistic, Monistic whole made of different wavelengths of existence. To think the Divine is some weirdo or weirdos in the sky floating around is primitive, illogical, unscientific & stupid.
If you are not spiritual, you are a mighty lonely meatpuppet...adrift in a sea of black, saddled upon a spinning sphere that hangs on nothing. Life is short...live it long!"
You should take your own advice, instead of believing fairy tales written by bronze age goat fuckers.
It's strange how Christians are so opposed to the idea of life on other planets, considering that for hundreds of years the accepted position even among Christians was that God is so great he would create life everywhere in the universe, not just on Earth. If St. Augustine could reconcile this with Christianity, then why can't today's fundies?
Don't you just love this line of reasoning? "The idea that life was brought about by the laws of nature acting upon various chemicals and particles in an orderly fashion is plainly ridiculous. Now, the idea that an invisible, bearded man in the sky pulled a lever, on the other hand.."
Unlike modern fundies, St. Augustine had a good education.
I realize the word "good" in the above sentence may be redundant.
Weren't proto-cellular structures found on Mars?
@ Raised by Horses:
It's actually kind of strange, really. Augustine was sort of halfway between being a fundie and being normal. He wasn't a fundie when it came to the learning of his time (and if were alive today, he would not appreciate the Biblical literalists making Christians look stupid) but he definitely had a serious case of "the zeal of the convert". When it came to social matters, he could be just as oppressive as the people quoted here, which was extreme even for its time. Most fundie theology that doesn't come from Calvin or Darby comes from him. (And for fundies who are Catholic, all of fundie theology comes from him.)
So he's in a bit of an uncanny valley of fundieness. Depending on which of his writings you read, you could argue that he was a proto-fundie, albeit one who did not deny the science of his day. People are complex.
"No matter how many times you roll the dice, you will never come close to replicating life."
Or you might on the very next roll. Combine that with the fact that you're rolling those dice a few billion -conservatively - times, and it actually becomes statistically likely that life will occur.
That was a aprticularly retarded road for you to go down; you've just proven a natural origin of life not only possible, but probable.
'if you are not spiritual, you are a mighty lonely meatpuppet...adrift in a sea of black, saddled upon a spinning sphere that hangs on nothing'
Translation: I am scared of death and being insignificant, so i believe a lovely story that makes the bad thoughts go away. Gotcha.
The chances of winning the 6 out of 49 lottery are minimal, about 1 : 15.5 million.
Let's put that in a picture:
Somewhere along the highway between Boston, MA and Washington DC there is a quarter dollar coin on the ground in the breakdown lane. Only one quarter dollar coin. You are driving from Boston to Washington. At some point along the way you veer into the breakdown lane, slam on the breaks, stop, open the door, stick out your hand and touch the ground. You can only do this once.
The chances that that one single quarter dollar coin is exactly where you stick out your hand after stopping are about 1 : 15.5 million, the same as winning the 6 out of 49 lottery.
Impossible, right?
Well, every week or so one or more people hit the six correct numbers.
If life is an inherent part of the universe, I'd say the chances of it evolving somewhere are better than winning the lottery.
Fortunately, reality is not bound by your personal incredulity.
That's the way it happened because that's what the evidence supports. The universe doesn't care whether or not it fits with your millennia-old fairy tale, and facts aren't here so you can sleep soundly at night.
What are the odds that life would evolve on Earth?
100%!
Because, you know, it happened.
I've replicated life three times.
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