Just A Fragment #fundie

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[A preacher responds to the news of an interracial couple being denied a marriage licence.]

My friends and my church members know what I believe about interracial marriage.

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Now, for the record, this is what I believe about interracial marriage:

Is it sinful? No.

Is it wise? No.

Why?

1. It limits your effectiveness for the cause of Christ. I am a realist. Throw a dart at a US map. Whatever town it points to, go there. Choose a street. If you are white, take a negro counterpart and knock on doors. Introduce yourself as husband and wife. Try to share the gospel. Now, choose another street in the same town and go with a white counterpart. Gage the difference. Then ask yourself, "Why choose to pursue a relationship that will limit my effectiveness for reaching others with the Gospel of Jesus Christ?"

2. It does create a problem for the children. Period. And undeniably. Why do this?

3. Common sense. "Doth not nature itself teach you..." It is easy to decide that your inner discomfort with seeing a bi-racial couple is just some handed down racist views, but is it? (I know....to appear P/C you will swear you experience no inner conflict of discomfort.... but you do...) Or is it something else?

4. Parental guidance. Most of the bi-racial marriages are not embraced or blessed by both sets of parents. A young person -- who goes through with this knowing his/her parents do not agree with it -- dishonors his/her parents. As one young lady once told me, "When I found out my dad didn't want me dating a black man, I was the more determined to do so." Wow... that was of God....

If all of this still does not convince you..... try sorting socks until a light comes on.....

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old comment by

My "inner discomfort with seeing a bi-racial couple"? I don't even notice them! One of my housemates was dating a man of a different race and it never even registered with me until she was discussing how some of his friends were racist towards her. Similarly, one of my favourite TV fandoms contained couples of different races and I never even noticed that until a long time later when I was discussing racism in TV.

But of course, I'm apparently just saying this "to be PC". Because our dear fundie up there can't imagine that other people don't feel the same way they do (or, perhaps, knows they're a racist bigot, knows its wrong, and tries to convince themself that everyone feels the same way?)

old comment by katie5000

1. It limits your effectiveness for the cause of Christ. I am a realist. Throw a dart at a US map. Whatever town it points to, go there. Choose a street. If you are white, take a negro counterpart and knock on doors. Introduce yourself as husband and wife. Try to share the gospel. Now, choose another street in the same town and go with a white counterpart. Gage the difference. Then ask yourself, "Why choose to pursue a relationship that will limit my effectiveness for reaching others with the Gospel of Jesus Christ?"

This is assuming that most people want to run around spreading the gospel in the first place. Which they don't.

As one young lady once told me, "When I found out my dad didn't want me dating a black man, I was the more determined to do so."

Was she under 25? Teenagers and other young people tend to like to rebel in the interest of self-definition. The sad thing here is that precisely because this was defined as taboo and an act of rebellion, it was encouraging her to see her boyfriend as a black man and not simply the guy she's dating because she genuinely likes him.

old comment by Justanotheratheist

1.) Who gives a flying fuck about spreading the gospel? A very small minority at best - and I do mean very small.

2.) Children are usually colour blind when it comes to race, until they have their views skewed by elders who are racist.

3.) The only time I felt any "discomfort" in the presence of a mixed couple was when I shared a restaurant table with a white guy and his black wife. She had a stunning body and was wearing tight jeans and stiletto heels - I think you get what sort of "discomfort" I'm talking about. Nudge nudge, wink wink.

4.) Again, this is nothing more than a product of growing up racist and is not much different from point 2).

old comment by K

"1. It limits your effectiveness for the cause of Christ."
So, in your thought experiment, you knock on the doors of bigots and your bigotry is validated.
What if you imagine knocking on the doors of interracial couples, though? Wouldn't being an interracial couple increase your effectiveness?

Also, where in the Bible does it say the PURPOSE of selecting a partner is their effectiveness as a missionary?

"2. It does create a problem for the children. Period. And undeniably. Why do this?"

I keep getting told that Christains are being persecuted. So raising kids as Christains creates a problem for the children, period, why do this?

"3. It is easy to decide that your inner discomfort with seeing a bi-racial couple is just some handed down racist views"

But, but, but... I am NOT uncomfortable seeing a biracial couple. Frankly it makes me horny. Especially if it's whiteman/blackwoman. Like my marriage...

"Most of the bi-racial marriages are not embraced or blessed by both sets of parents."

Mine was. So fuck off.

"If all of this still does not convince you....."
None of this convinces me. It's just you rationalizing your own bigotry. You DO clearly think it's sinful, but lack the balls to just say so.

"try sorting socks until a light comes on....."

Um, I didn't marry a sock. If you really think it's important to find a mate that 'matches' you, marry your sister.

old comment by K'Zad Bhat

1. I don't care to spread your Gospel, so suck it.

2. Elaborate.

3. I feel a little inner discomfort seeing any couple. I feel a little inner discomfort seeing any group. I feel a little inner discomfort seeing any individual. A bit of low key social anxiety that's actually pretty well under control, and I can live with it.

4. Plenty of parents don't want their kids dating someone who has a different skin color, or the same skin color. Sometimes the skin color is relevant to the reason's for the parent's objection. Most of the time it's because the parent is, well, who they are. My dad's mother disapproved of every relationship any of her kids was in, especially their marriages. She also disapproved of her kids getting licenses, and even jobs. She . . . had issues, let's say.

Well, that leaves me thoroughly unconvinced that any of what you say is an argument against interracial marriage.