A UCF student claims he’s getting death threats for messing with something sacred.
Webster Cook says he smuggled a Eucharist, a small bread wafer that to Catholics symbolic of the Body of Christ after a priest blesses it, out of mass, didn’t eat it as he was supposed to do, but instead walked with it.
“We don’t know 100% what Mr. Cooks motivation was,” said Susan Fani a spokesperson with the local Catholic diocese. “However, if anything were to qualify as a hate crime, to us this seems like this might be it.”
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WHAT?!
He took a fucking cracker (that was given to him, so they can't say it was stolen) and now people want to convict him of a crime or kill him?!
And people wonder why we consider them to be lunatics.
WEBSTER COOK HATES UNLEAVENED BREAD!!!!!
If Jesus' body feels insulted, he can file a legal complaint himself. Otherwise, the church lacks what is legally known as standing.
We just expect the University to take this seriously,” she added “To send a message to not just Mr. Cook but the whole community that this kind of really complete sacrilege will not be tolerated.”
What needs to be taken seriously, is that nutjobs like yourselves are foaming at the mouth because someone did not eat a cracker. *gasp* I really wish you could hear how insane you sound.
You GAVE it to him! It is no longer yours. He can do what he wants with it.
Besides, what if he wanted to save it? It's a holy cracker now. You should be thanking him if he kept it.
Grow up. It's a crappy little cracker. Transubstaniation is no more real than the virgin birth, the resurrection or heaven. It escapes me why someone would have accepted the host and then left the church without consuming it, but it IS just a cracker.
When I was Cathlic and went to communion sometimes I would
Then I was Episcopalian and at least they have real bread that the Sunday school kids make and then you got some really good tastin wine to wash it down with.
But even some good wine and nice piece of bread wasn't enough to keep me going to church.
I think the kid just didn't want to have to gag the cracker down. Leave him alone.
I agree with this! How dare he be so disrespectful with the body of our lord Jesus Christ! Why couldn't he have mashed it to a pulp in his mouth, sloshed it around in a bile-lined bag of acid, then pushed it out of his rectum into a toilet like respectful Catholics do?
I grew up Catholic, and they are pretty strict about eating the Host immediately after you get it from the Eucharistic minister. No matter what.
Earlier this year, my little sister (12) went up to the Eucharistic minister at Mass. He held up the Host, and it was actually RAT-GNAWED. He saw, a look of disgust passed across his face, but he said "body of Christ" and placed it into her hands anyway. Not sure what to do, she held it carefully in her mouth until she got back to her pew, took it out, and showed my mom. She was forced to eat it. EWWW.
One rather extreme Catholic I know believes that both Host and wine are totally sterile after being consecrated, though... hahaha. I guess that's how they get around serving rat-nibbled crackers.
"“However, if anything were to qualify as a hate crime, to us this seems like this might be it.”"
Since when is not partaking in mock ritualized cannibalism a "hate crime"?
At first this sounds kind of serious. He stole a Eucharist from a church! What is it? A statue? An icon? Then you find out that it's a cracker. Do they actually think this guy has kidnapped Christ and is holding him hostage? According to related articles, yes they do.
We live in the 21st century and we have people mortified by the idea of someone not eating a cracker.
I feel embarrassed for my country, time period, and species. Imagine anthropologists studying this in 1000 years. They'd think we're all imbeciles.
New rule: Catholics are no longer allowed to consider any religious ritual bizarre or ridiculous in any sense.
So the kid I knew in school who spat the thing into the hair of the girl in front of him should be tracked down and arrested ?? Or should the girl be arrested for not knowing it was there and walking out of church with it stuck on the back of her head ??? I have to admit, though it was funny at the time I did feel quite bad about laughing. Only I was feeling sorry for the girl, not so much for the wafer.
Not only was this student getting death threats, so now is PZ Myers . Apparently, expressing shock and anger that someone would receive death threats for this is enough to justify even more death threats.
Nice.
There is a great thread (or three) on this at Pharyngula.
Personally, I steal blessed wafers all the time when i feel too sin-laden. Take it home and nail it to a cross for a few days, then bury it in a cave. Works great!
Bill Donahue's reactions are equally shrill, petulant, and hilarious. Poor, poor, persecuted Church that represents a prominent portion of the Christians in our country. So picked on by that oppressive college student. He should be ashamed...
Goddammit, I submitted this SAME THING two days ago! Why does this keep happening to me? IT'S A CONSPIRACY D:<
Anyway, apparenly Florida has laws or something against disrupting a religious ceremony...but the only disruption came when the parishoners tried to stop him from stealing the Jeebus Wafer. And yet THEY'RE not being tried for assault, and HE'S getting death threats.
Christians no longer have the right to mock Muslims getting outraged over a cartoon.
Didn't this guy take the wafer to show to a non-Catholic friend so he could explain the importance about it?
Yes, yes he did. He was even planning to properly Eat Jesus after he had educated his friend on the practices of Catholicism.
I dare say we are all getting an education on what Catholicism is really like, now.
xangel wrote:
"Catholics actually believe he is walking around with a piece of Jesus in his pocket. That's just too much responsibility." What happens if this piece of Jesus isn't eaten? Does it subtract one Holy Wafer's worth of weight from the amount of Body of Christ left in the universe? If enough people do this, will they accumulate the full weight of an adult human in uneaten Holy Wafers, thereby making all the other Eucharists not work?
Damn, they could bring the entire Catholic church crashing down this way....
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What about the company that makes, and sells, these things? What about the rejects, do they trash them, or must they be dealt with in some ritual?
He didn't partake in symbolic cannibalism by eating a magic cracker? HATE MONGERING MONSTER!!!1 Catholics, it's time to prepare the firewood, dust off the old Malleus Maleficarum, and bring back the Inquisition, just like the good old days! HALLELUJAH!!!1!!1
I thought Catholics believed it was the actual body of christ through the miricle of transsubstantiation ?
just think, we could get actual dna from a transformed cracker !
Jesus, eatin' his flesh, drinkin' his blood, happy times !
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