Think of all the babies aborted in the last 30 years. Anyone can be a monster when the circumstances are right. Think of (Previous Poster) who would rather have his own children go to hell than ask God to save them.
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Well, I don´t know what the two things have to do with each other. However, let´s set in the second part, in which sense is guilty the mother?, if somebody is saved is SAVED BY HIS OR HER OWN MEANS, not through somebody else. For the same reason, why asking God?, are their children or they themselves able to do it themselves?, or now the new fashion is that the unborn, NO MATTER HOW INNOCENT, are going to Hell?
Yeah, think of all the embryoes and fetuses aborted in the past 30 years. Think what could have happened if they had not been aborted but instead had really become babies ... and then children, teens, and adults - most of them growing up unwanted and in bad situations. Do you really think they or the world would have benefitted??? May be harsh, but I don't.
NotMe: Sorry, but I'm not seeing what you're seeing here. You say he's not condemning anyone, but he's clearly implying that those who choose abortion are "monsters," which sounds like a condemnation to me; that's a lot stronger than just saying that he thinks abortion is wrong. And I've read the previous post, to which he was responding, and nowhere in it does that poster say anything about "not praying for his own children"; nothing of the kind is even mentioned!
David D.G.:can be a monster if someone else (with authority and/or knowledge about the situation at hand) is responsible and tells them to do something.
Ofcourse there are many people who need some stronger "encouragement" but everyone has a condition at which he would rather kill others than have that condition fullfilled. I don't remember any names, but there was a German who was tried for war crimes after WW2 because he operated the gas chambers. He pleaded that he wasn't to be held responsible because he only did it to save his family, who would have been killed. He just choose the lifes of his family over those of strangers who were to die anyway. There are few people who would die (or even worse, have their famillies killed with him/her) for some stranger whom they'll never see when the time of choice is there.
Until you self-reightous fuckers are willing to raise every last motherfucking one of those unwanted children in a good, open-mined, kind, and loving home, please keep your ignorant opinions to yourselves.
NotMe: Granted on the idea of everyone being capable of monstrous behavior when pushed to it by circumstances, but the very nature of extremes normally required for this makes his whole argument pretty moot -- as does the fact that he acknowledges that EVERYONE is susceptible to this, negating his own moral high ground.
why stop at 30 years. Just because it only became legal then doesn't mean there weren't back alley abortions long before that. However you feel about the life of the unborn child, you have to respect that the life of the mother is worth something, too. A safe medical procedure is better than a coat hanger.
Think of all the babies aborted in the last 30 years. you adopted? Let me guess, you're another "pro-lifer" who wants to make sure women spew out as many babies as possible but don't actually give a dam about what happens to them.
Anyone can be a monster when the circumstances are right.
Well, admittedly, you're actually right here, if taken out of context.
Think of (Previous Poster) who would rather have his own children go to hell than ask God to save them.
Um, hell doesn't actually exist. You're calling someone a monster for refusing to ask a magic sky fairy to refrain from sending them to a magic land that doesn't exist. You're the closest one to a monster in that thread.
I've said it before and I'll say it again, there are times when abortion is the kinder, or only, option. What if the pregnancy is dangerous to the woman's health? And what if her child will be born with a terminal desease, or a horrid disfigurement/mental handicap that would make life impossible or very depressing?
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