Whether you do or don't want married peole to have certain preferential tax standings, gay people cannot marry.
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"Marriage is family construct, [...] and two men can't make a baby."
But they don't have to be able to make a baby to be a family. A straight couple that's been married for 20 years and hasn't had any kids is still a family. And even if babies were required for family/marriage, there is this newfangled thing called adoption...
Edit: Also, aren't families supposed to be about love???
"Marriage is family construct, not an expression of love and two men can't make a baby."
So by that reasoning, elderly people who fall in love cannot get married either. How nice. I think you should be the one to tell them that whenever a nice elderly couple go to get a marriage license.
Well now, let's give the guy some credit here. He really is going by the Bible's definition of marriage here - it's a contract, not an expression of love.
It's just plain stupid that guys like this refuse to acknowledge that marriage has evolved well beyond a mere contract for transfer of property through a person.
First, define family. A family is not always a man, a woman, and their kids.
Second, why the hell do people get married if it's not an expression of love?
And so what if two men (or two women) can't reproduce with each other? That's not an argument against anything, except someone stating that they can (with our current medical technology).
'Marriage is family construct, not an expression of love and two men can't make a baby.'
And what about heterosexual couples who are UNABLE to have children or DON'T WANT to have children? Oh wait! I guess they should be prevented from marrying too! Fucking hypocrites.
And, as we all know, the only definition of a family is a breeding pair of humans. Gay people, infertile people, elderly people, they're just not family material.
jsbrads, I hope that you are not planning on having a family of your own. Children deserve to grow up loved and accepted, not bred like so much livestock.
Whether you do or don't want married peole to have certain preferential tax standings, Christian Fundamentalist people cannot marry.
Fixed.
Stupid asshole! Me and hubby can't make a baby either, it seems. Are we not allowed to stay married then?
Not an expression of love? Welcome to the 16th century, or what? Then you married to further your family's influence in society, and to extend its property. "Family" here means parents, uncles and aunts, siblings. Not you and your future spouse, you had just a tiny say in the matter.
two men can't make a baby
That will change in the not too distant future.
http://www.geneticsandsociety.org/article.php?id=3904
The problem with male eggs and female sperm is, imo, not that gays will be able to have biological children. It's all the kids out there who need families. It seems kinda selfish.
I dont know about you, but as for me....I DONT want married peole.
I know, a mistype, but it sounded funny.
traditional marriage is a family construct involving a contract for the disposition of property, ie a way of controlling who got what; romantic love and marriage is very much a 19C fancy.
If 2 people of differeing sexes with nothing can get the full legal (and religious) caboodle, why not 2 of the same sex?
Oh, I forgot, civilisation will fall....
Since marriage is just about making babies, when the wife reaches menopause, shouldn't the husband trade her in for a younger, more fertile model?
Where's the sanctimonious sanctity?
Marriage is family construct, not an expression of love and two men can't make a baby.
What a dark world you live in.
@jsbrads and #1065156: That's news to my parents and my grandparents, who married for love, as well as my great-uncle, who not only married for love, but remarried when he and his now-second wife were past the age of childbearing.
two men can't make a baby
Nowadays, that's a good reason for giving them the tax benefit. At least they're not crowding our schools and driving their kids to soccer in a gas-guzzling Suburban.
'two men can't make a baby '
Ah, but with the aid of a sperm bank and a turkey baster, two women can.
1) Heterosexual couples can be unable to have children, or even choose not to, since there is no such requirement for marriage.
You fail. Please try again.
OK, fine. So geezer widows and widowers can no longer get married. They can't make a baby.
And jsbrads, did I mention you're a fucking moron?
Given the advances in the field of biotechnology, how long before 2 men can make a baby,in the form of DNA Splicing &(As for bringing said child to term, a Surrogate Mother would do the job nicely...) already happened somewhere on Earth...
Fine, then what does it take for the gays to be allowed to have attorney at end of life, and also share benefits, which will save you, the taxpayer, emergency room direct and indirect costs?
What about relationships/marriages between infertile couples, relationships/marriages between couples that sterilise themselves (through vasectomies, etc.), relationships/marriages where the woman is post-menopausal, or relationships/marriages where neither partner wants kids?
What? So, a husband and wife aren't supposed to love each other and are just married to make babies?
...Jeez. No wonder you fundies beat your wives.
"Marriage is family construct"
So what kind of "family construct" did King Solomon have with his 700 wives and 300 concubines? What kind of "family construct" did Abraham have with his multiple wives and concubines?
There are far more references of polygamy in your bible than "one man one woman".
Genesis 4:19
I do want married people to have equality. I don't care whether the married people are gay, lesbian or straight.
Hubby (male) and me (female) don't seem able to make a baby either. We've been trying since 1998, and all we've manged to produce was a miscarriage in week 11 in 2002. (It's very practical, not having to bother with contraceptive methods, but I'm still kinda sad about not being able to be a grandmother...)
Hubby and me ARE a family, an expression of love, since 1987.
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