All homosexuals should face stoning to death, a Muslim preacher of hate declared yesterday.
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He said: 'If a man likes another man, it can happen, but if you go on to fulfil your desire, if it is proved, then there is a punishment to follow. You don't stone to death unless there are four eyewitnesses. It is a very stringent procedure.
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All homosexuals should face stoning to death, a xtian preacher of hate declared yesterday. Pat Robertson, the firebrand cleric who wants to see America ruled by xtian law, said such a regime was the only way to fix the country's ills.
Hey, what do you know. Fundamentalist xtianity and Islam are different in name only.
I don't know why they just cannot get this whole "consent" thing. Seriously, what part don't they understand? Also, to the poster above me, a mind far far away, that's not really fair. Islam is a peaceful religion. It has it's fundamentalists just like Christians, but they aren't all like that.
To Amanda, I believe that was the point of a mind far far away's post. That fundamentalists from either religion are the same, not that Islam as a whole relates only to fundamentalist xtians, but rather that fundamentalists from both religions are basically the same beast.
On the one hand, this is Fundie.
On the other, it's from the Daily Fail, and they're not known for accuracy or integrity...
(Note to Self: Do NOT attend orgies in Muslim countries -- there are too many witnesses.)
@Amanda, of course Islam is a nation of peace.
A piece of you goes here, a piece goes somewhere else.......
According to sharia law, the authorities would never have a case. An eyewitness or two, that may happen, but their law actually requires four eyewitnesses. How often would anyone bring four spectators to watch them having any kind of sex?
Ah, yet another death threat from 'the religion of peace'. You do wonder why these people continue to live in Britain when for the price of a plane ticket they could move to some medieval Islamic dictatorship where you'd think they'd be far happier.
That said, the quote is from the Daily Heil , a paper once described as "Fascism with Oven Gloves on"
"There are some people who are attracted to donkeys but that does not mean it is right.' "
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Stop it! I just lolasmed over my keyboard. Brilliant, you've got my vote for lolliest comment of the week.
You don't stone to death unless there are four eyewitnesses. It is a very stringent procedure.
Gee-whiz, a whole FOUR witnesses...I could dig up four guys right now who would swear blind they saw Obama summon demons in a fiery circle of Congressional Records.
Why are religious fundies of all backgrounds always so obsessed with gay sex? Inquiring minds want to know. Let me be blunt, I only see to reasons: Either they are interested or they fear that because of teh ghey there would be less children to poison with their bullshit. Or both. Whatever. Now please DIAF!
I don't know why they just cannot get this whole "consent" thing.
They consider themselves (or at least the people they preach at) slaves to the dictates of their god, and that his pronouncements on what is good or bad are universally valid. Under such circumstances, it's understandably hard for them to deal with both the notion that what's bad or unpleasant for one person could be good and even enjoyable for another, and also the notion that one's personal volition could ever be considered to have any validity if it didn't comply exactly with the will of god.
Apparently, consenting to a gay relationship is also consenting to be murdered on trumped-up charges by a mob of baying fundie freaks.
Did I mention that I hate this fucking world sometimes?
'There are some people who are attracted to donkeys but that does not mean it is right.'
Show some more respect to your mother, Anjem.
"Why are all these Muslims invading Britain?"
Because our fucking government doesn't have the spine to tell them to fuck off because apparently it would be considered rude and politically incorrect.
So instead of being shoved back to the middle east, they're placed in a nice council house with translators avaialable on hand. And how is this all paid for? By the hardworking taxpayers!
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"'There are some people who are attracted to donkeys but that does not mean it is right.' "
Well, then you'd better hope that no one is ever attracted to you, because you're an ass.
Why are all these Muslims invading Britain?
Conceivably, it's because they think that it's a safer, more pleasant place to live and prosper, with greater political freedom, but somehow they apparently haven't yet made the mental connection between that and the general lack of a fundamentalist religious stranglehold on society that a significant fraction (but, it should be stressed, by no means all, probably not even a majority) also seem to want to bring with them.
I'd like to see them just try to stone me. In Islam if you are executed by stoning and you escape you get to live, because they believe if you escape from the hole their sky daddy wanted you to live. In a way the stoning itself is a trial by ordeal. And men are only buried up to their wastes for the stoning so it's easy for them to escape. I'd get out easily. If all punishments were execution by stoning where if you escape you get to live I could get away with everything. Eventually they'd be like "can't we just use some other method? No Quran says stoning, using other methods are sin" and they might just give up trying.
@ ozznova
The cartoons were done in Denmark. I'm afraid I don't speak Danish, so I cannot read the Danish news sheets. Nor (for much the same reason) am I aware of whether Denmark has anti-hate legislation. Certainly I did not hear of any action being taken.
If memory serves me correctly, there may have been some attacks on the offices of the publishers of the cartoons. Perhaps it was more appropriate to deal with the matter in this basis, although I think it would be foolish to ignore the hate element.
'There are some people who are attracted to donkeys but that does not mean it is right.'
Like you?
In a way, I'm glad he lives in a country with free speech where he's able to spew his ignorant crap. Why? Because in a country with free speech , people are exposed to scientific ideas and tolerance . I would much rather see him be ignored rather than stifled. Because tolerance and people not caring about what he says is much worse for superstitious people like him than being stifled. The real fear for people like him isn't to be banned, but to live in a country where everyone can hear him and be ignored.
No one in the real world cares about his ancient tribal superstitious shit, and I think it's a proud day for the world when it's okay for people to spew hate because they'll be ignored anyway. I'd love to see his face when that happens, to watch people like that get pounded into irrelevancey.
ETA: I get what you mean, Amanda . A lot of smart, tolerant people have left Iran or Iraq, or other totalitarian countries long ago because of the situation, and now only the idiots and those who are forced to follow them are left.
Adrian Pasdar's (a Heroes actor) dad, a heart surgeon from Iran, is the only person I can think of off the top of my head, though.
"'There are some people who are attracted to donkeys but that does not mean it is right."
And there are some people who aren't christian but that does not mean it is right. If you don't like how the Brits run things go back to your islamic paradise.
There are adults who believe in imaginary friends. It seems a harmless delusion, but when it leads to them advocating killing innocent people they need to be stopped.
It's scary that you only need witnesses, and no real evidence. This is one of the reasons this moronic "law" has no future.
Also, Anjem and the likes of you, please DIAF.
All I can say to this is that a Christian saying Islam is too much of a violent religion is like a lion saying a tiger is too much of a fierce killer.
FUN FACT: Donkeys actually aren't as intelligent as we are and cannot consent to sex or marriage.
You, on the other hand, should be buried up to your head in the sand, covered in honey and left to the ants.
For those of you wondering why these wannabe theocratic dictators don't just go home if they want it so bad: Back home, these bastards are not in charge. If they can recreate a choice slice of hell here in the free world, then they can be the chief devils.
And if you think the straight majority is just going to stand around and cheer as you slaughter innocent homosexuals... well, you just go right on thinking that. It'll make you easier to ambush.
Why does he want Britain ruled by Sharia law? Why doesn't he just move to Saudi Arabia?
Old, but for the archives: it seems that to him harassment to oppress and terrorism recruitment is an act of "retaliatory" war against countries that aren't ruled by middle age regimes, while misconstruing their misery as all caused by the West and its values, scapegoated... So he doesn't want to live under his type of theocracy elsewhere, he wants excuses to oppress people who are free and who live in better circumstances with better opportunities. Then extremist identity politics with persecutory delusions, unfortunately a-la-mode again since the pandemic.
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