So don’t let your child date anyone who isn’t a Christian. If their best friends aren’t Christians, switch youth groups and try to find another source of Christian friends for them. And you yourself should model the importance of Christian friends by having them yourself.
Keep in mind that the danger is not just that your child will become involved with non-Christians and thus start drinking or doing things you’d rather they not. I’ve seen Christian teens become immersed with very upstanding citizens who aren’t Christian, and that was part of the problem. They knew so many kids who were “good” who didn’t go to church that they started to suspect that you didn’t need to go to church to be good (which of course you don’t). And then church became superfluous.
49 comments
Never ever move to Sweden, dearie. We have very few Christians here, you'd be very lonely.
What? So no Christians ever drink or do things they shouldn't?
Erm, it sounds like your bigest fear is that your kids will get tired of religion and your brainwashing, and start thinking for themselves. Good self-perception, actually.
Good thinking! You're teaching your children to keep their friends a secret from you. Now if one of their friends tries to push drugs or unprotected sex on them, or abuse them, they won't dare to tell you. Way to keep them safe! Mom of the year!
Two things I learned from growing up in a religious environment-
1) The more "angelic" you act in front of your parents and other adults, the more likely you'll get away with sneaking out, smoking, drinking, etc. I still remember to this day a woman I knew who was always boasting about what good, devout Christians her two daughters were-until one of them came back pregnant from a mission trip.
Also, ever seen an Amish kid on Rumschpringa? There's a documentary floating around on that somewhere. The shorter the leash, the harder and faster they're going to run when they finally break free of it.
2) Minister's kids were usually the ones with the best drugs and threw the wildest parties.
Horror of horrors, they might realise that church is entirely superfluous to being a good person or even to believing in god.
And the minister's daughter I knew was a little wild thing who drank, smoked and had a, shall we say, adventurous attitude to sexuality.
Actually, I'm all for christers becoming more insular and inbred. Go ahead, set up your own little towns and schools. Retire from main society politics and only marry those who meet your strict rules. Just leave the rest of us the hell alone.
They keep doing this and I figure we'll have bred the stupid out of society within, what, 30 years? Oh yes.
By all means insulate your children from the outside world! Keep them from having non-Christian friends! If they find out that non-Christians are decent people too, they might end up being tolerant and not treating them with the appropriate amount of hate.
Here's a little tip: You can't choose your childrens' friends for them. They'll either get along with someone or not, and the more you try to steer them away from someone the more they'll want to hang out with them. The only thing you can do is try to raise them to make good choices.
Reminds me of a fundie acquaintance who told me that true Christians couldn't be friends with non-Christians because "Jesus never hung out with sinners."
Great, you do that, until they move to college then you will go from completely controlling their lives to having no control at all - at which point they will make up their ruined teenage years in even less time and much harder. And before you can say a prayer so your little angel stays without sin, she'll call to tell you that she's pregnant and dropping out of college.
"So don’t let your child date anyone who isn’t a Christian."
image
Well, seeing as you lot are Teabaggers , they can always Plum them, I guess. [/hyper-smartarse] [/mind in gutter] >:D
Oh Sheila, you're so nuts !
image
"And you yourself should model the importance of Christian friends by having them yourself."
(*Switches to full Finbarr Saunders mode *):
'OO-ER! FNAR-FNARR! KYUK-KYUK! WOORGH-WOORGH! AG-AG-AG! EH?! ' X3
'Having them yourself '?! Sheila, you mucky little filthhound slutwhore, you!
No, right-wing Fundamental ist Christainity, you are the ungood [/Newspeak]
"And then church became superfluous. "
You said it Sheila, I didn't!
"And then church became superfluous."
It sure did, though not in the way you meant it.
P.S. Does anybody find the name of that website a bit disturbing?
And by doing so you return Christianity to cult status. Because that's what cults do: isolate you from everyone else. That also means that you fall more and more out of touch with everyone else and make it more and more difficult to get converts. Sure, you'll ensure that your message stays "pure", but it comes at the cost of suffocating the lumbering dinosaur that is Christianity. If it wasn't for the fact that you'd be fucking over your own kids I'd say go for it, cloister yourself away. But if Waco and Jonestown have taught me anything, it's that the children suffer the most from this kind of insanity.
@Doubting Thomas
Reminds me of a fundie acquaintance who told me that true Christians couldn't be friends with non-Christians because "Jesus never hung out with sinners."
Sadly, I believe that. Given that almost no fundie I've ever known has actually known what the Bible says. Especially infuriating is when you get the Christians who think "God helps those who help themselves" is in the Bible while they don't believe that "sell all of your possessions" is in there. Oh sure, they can quote numerous verses of the Bible and even reference the book, chapter, and verse. But memorizing a few verses isn't the same as knowing the Bible and study after study shows that the majority of Christians, even fundie Christians, really don't know jack shit about it.
"They knew so many kids who were “good” who didn’t go to church that they started to suspect that you didn’t need to go to church to be good (which of course you don’t)"
So it's true, but you don't want kids suspecting it? At least this person actually admits that they want to deceive their kids.
Young adults may find they don't *need* church and religion and they don't *need* to be Christian to be decent people? Oh teh horrors, their bubbles will be busted...
Not allowing a teen to date a non-Christian is messed up. You're essentially telling your kid that that's the most important trait a person can have and everything else is secondary.
...And then church became superfluous.
No, you're pretty good at doing THAT on your own.
The last part of the title of the blog refers to the contents of your cranial cavity, Ms. Hoover-head!
"And then church became superfluous."____The End
When I went to Sunday school there was one kid who had all the bible answers. God, was he holy! Every Sunday the guy in charge would have Timmy recite all the bible books in order, and held him up as The Guy we should all strive to be.
Anybody ever know any Catholic school girls? Or preachers' daughters?
Partay Time!!!
Despite my being agnostic, religion is important in marriage in my opinion as much as it's a civil right as it may form a considerable part of philosophy; faith and culture are very closely intertwined in most conservative spheres. Of course, I acknowledge the progressive approach that love transcends faith as both parties would learn to respect each others' beliefs. The rest of OP's post comes across as outright xenophobia, not even intolerance. I daresay that OP's kids might probably run quick the moment the leash is cut, doing more drugs and drinking more than their parents would ever have nightmares about. As much a necessary environment of discipline or perhaps strictness about their children's whereabouts is being upheld here, an environment of openness is missing.
They knew so many kids who were “good” who didn’t go to church that they started to suspect that you didn’t need to go to church to be good (which of course you don’t). And then church became superfluous.
Wait... you admit that you don't need church to be good, and insist on LYING TO YOUR CHILDREN about it?
I get the idea that it should be Christians that kids should be kept from...
"They knew so many kids who were “good” who didn’t go to church that they started to suspect that you didn’t need to go to church to be good (which of course you don’t). And then church became superfluous."
eiter a poe or trying to hide her hatred and intolerance of unbelievers. She says you don't need church to be good which makes me wonder which it is
"If their best friends aren’t Christians, switch youth groups..."
Implying that teenagers make friends solely through youth groups. My closest friends came from the anime club at my high school.
The church is not superfluous, it is positively harmful. A bit of restyling every once in a while shouldn't hide the fact that it is a huge brake on social progress, and has been for at least five centuries.
And make sure your child only hangs out with other Christian children of the same sex! Hanging around with the opposite sex can create temptation. If the only people they have access to are same-sex, then they'll never ever have to worry about sexual temptation, nope, nosiree, not ever ....
And then church became superfluous.
What you are suggesting certainly will guarantee that your kids will come to view it as such.
I have a solution though, you could always keep them locked in the basement, that way you wouldn't have to worry about them meeting any non-Christians.
@Justanotheratheist
P.S. Does anybody find the name of that website a bit disturbing?
It does kind of have a "Stepford Wives" vibe to it.
they started to suspect that you didn’t need to go to church to be good (which of course you don’t).
Well, at least she admits it.
One of the filthiest sluts I ever knew was a reverend's daughter. There was nothing, I repeat nothing, that she wouldn't do.
*wipes a wistful tear away from left eye*
So don’t let your child date anyone who isn’t a Christian.
This reminds me of the old saying:
image
Going by her supposed definition of "Christian" (= fundamentalist born again Bible thumpers), Sheila's kids would have been pretty lonely at my high school. That might work will down in some tiny hell hole town in Mississippi, but in the real world, no chance.
...and thus start drinking or doing things you’d rather they not
Remind me, what was the first miracle Jesus performed? I seem to remember it was at a wedding in Cana...
if I had a kid, i'd let him date who he wants. (within reason, of course)and good luck finding a wealth of Christian friends where I live. (the UK). but that itself is a problem, no parent should be that controlling, let your kid live his own life. my parents did that, and look how I turned out......ok, bad example but you get what I mean.
and here's a shocker for you, NON-CHRISTIANS CAN BE GOOD PEOPLE. CRAZY, I KNOW.
Confused?
So were we! You can find all of this, and more, on Fundies Say the Darndest Things!
To post a comment, you'll need to Sign in or Register . Making an account also allows you to claim credit for submitting quotes, and to vote on quotes and comments. You don't even need to give us your email address.
