Okay this is me being serious. No joking about.
Its my kid made from my loins. I decide what I want him to be. If he's doing something I don't approve I shall mold him(with force if I must) to become what I want him to be!!!!!
He's a damn kid, he has no say what so ever!!
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The best punishment, of course, comes when xerxes is 85 and completely unable to prevent his "damn kid" from putting him in a piss-poor "elderly care" facility.
He's just a damn old man, he has no say whatsoever!
Your son is going to love you so much. You'll realise just how much when he puts you in a care home when you retire and never sees you again. After all, you'll be a damn old man, with no say whatever!
Plus he's not actually made from your loins, you contributed towards 1 cell in his body which is now dead.
Children are property, not people!
Sigh - once again:
"Human beings have an inalienable right to invent themselves; when that right is pre-empted it is called brain-washing." Germaine Greer, The Times, London, 1 Feb 1986
Your children are not your children.
They are the sons and daughters of life’s longing for itself.
They come through you, not from you.
And though they are with you, they belong not to you.
You may give them your love but not your thoughts,
For they have their own thoughts.
You may house their bodies but not their souls,
For their souls dwell in the house of tomorrow, which you cannot visit, not even in your dreams.
You may strive to be like them, but strive not to make them like you.
For life goes not backward nor tarries with yesterday.
You are the bows from which your children as living arrows are sent forth.
The archer sees the mark upon the path of the infinite, and he bends you with his might that the arrows may go swift and far.
Let your bending in the archer’s hand be for gladness;
For even as he loves the arrow that flies, so he loves the bow that is stable.
-Kahlil Gibran
Enlightened parents help their children be the best they can be with the talents and desires the children possess.
Your style of parenting is likely to raise only bitter robots or bitter kids estranged from their father. Either way, I agree, he's a damned kid.
Lets flash forward to a day, no a night, when his kid is 16 years old.
[xerxes is sleeping soundly, when the door to his room slowly opens. In walks his son]
So: "Father"
xerxes: [barely awake]"Yes son?"
son:"I have something for you"
[the son pulls out a handgun (being from a good fundy home, there is a handgun in each drawer of the house) and puts it to his father's temple]
son: "This is for all the years of misery you put me through. Asshole"
[there is a flash and a puff of smoke]
[there is a flash and a puff of smoke]
And a lot of blood with fragments of skull and brain everywhere. A shotgun a point blanc range to the head would likely take almost all the head off.
I like that my kids like me. I've seen too many fathers turn their kids away with that fuckwit's attitude.
I'm there to guide, maybe mold a little, but this clay has its own mind. I just make sure it doesn't break before its ready for the world.
OK, here's the plan, next time your child does something you don't like, ram it up your urethra and don't stop until it's resting safely in your testes and the world was the way it used to be!
I have a proposition, a...wager if you will.
I propose that this arsehole is ALSO a pro-lifer. And does not see that this little post of his here is possibly the best PRO-abortion statement I've ever seen. His kid is his property to do with as he wants...
Now the wager is this: If this is explained to Mr. Knuckledragger here, he will completely miss the irony. Or, in fact, know what "irony" is.
Any takers?
Dad? Is that you?
Papabear said: "Your style of parenting is likely to raise only....bitter kids estranged from their father. Either way, I agree, he's a damned kid."
Ding ding! We have a winner! That's how my stepdad played it and I haven't had a conversation with him since I was thirteen. While I didn't 'turn' gay, I did despise him and his world with a passion. four years of nodding and gritting my teeth and I was out of the house at 17. Now that I could kick his ass and he's getting closer to an old folks home I can't help but grin sometimes.
Whether or not this is a serious post, there are many like him, those who can't stand creativity, relaxation, or that creeping suspicion that somebody might be having fun somewhere.
That independent freewill thing must really chap your ass. Carbon copies, that's all you want. Ever see what happens to Catholic school girls and the Preacher's Daughters? It's not a stereotype, it's the truth. Oppression leads to any child lashing out and embarking on their own at some point. You're a grave diservice to your child and to society.
This idiot thinks he can control his child's sexuality. You can't change someones mindset. It's like trying to make an atheist believe in God; it's a lost cause. I wild goose chase. No matter how much gender-forcing you do, you can't change the way your child thinks. I'm glad Xerxes has no children... he doesn't deserve them.
Growing up Christian, this seemed to be the attitude of my parents, and the parents of every other kid in church. I don't understand how they can do this and NOT see how hurtful it is, how it's guaranteed to turn their children AWAY from them and their religion. It's like watching otherwise-intelligent people shoot themselves over and over in the foot, it really is. My parents weren't stupid in any other respect that I could see... only when it came to religion did they get out the gun and the blindfold.
Someone get social services on the line, quick.
<<< Just because you may not give your kid a say doesn't mean he's not thinking--and hating your guts. It's a great way to ensure he never does anything you think he should when he grows up. >>>
Damn right. I always got more stubborn when my parents told me to do something that I disagreed with, unless they could give me a good reason. This was fairly unusual, but when it happened, the pushier they got, the more determined I became to ignore them.
Quoth the Raven, "Nevermore!"
That means Poe, for those of you questioning my sanity. Rest assured I never had any, but I thought you'd like an explanation.
yep, this is why i had kids too; to take out my issues on them, to force them into being something I am not, to make up for where i went wrong, and I'll only rest when they are living on the street selling there asshole for meth.
Till he's 18.
"This is how you grow people who commit their first murder at age 14"
BTW, I killed someone at age 11, it wasn't murder though.
Till he's 18.
"This is how you grow people who commit their first murder at age 14"
BTW, I killed someone at age 11, it wasn't murder though.
I may not have appreciated every instance of parental authority at the time, but with hindsight what it all basically boiled down to was my mum and dad telling me not to stick my hand in the fire and to always go to school and learn as much as I possibly could. They even gave me bandages and books to help fill the gaps I created.
As an adult, I buy far, far more books than I've ever bought bandages.
So what happens when your kid grows up? Do you want an adult asking you to make all of their decisions for them? Don't you have your own life to run?
And if your child, as an adult, makes his or her own decisions and makes one you do not agree with? Its going to be quite a shock for you when your "devoted" 18 year old son or daughter suddenly becomes "headstrong and disobedient." Will you then decide to let them live their own life, or will you find new ways to coerce them?
As I see it, there are two possibilities here, either you haven't thought this through, or you have. Both of them make me nervous.
This attitude is usually that of my guitarist, but:
Please die in a fire. He is a kid, one who's learning. You can't force him to be what you want. As long as he's not a criminal and isn't an alcoholic or druggie, then leave him alone. If someone killed him, would you want him to be how you want still? Would you even miss him? Do you actually love him? If you do, let try things. Then he may come out as you want, maybe not. But love him. Teach him well. Don't beat him.
Diversity: Learn it.
If you're lucky, when you get to a certain age he will stick you in the crappiest and cheapest old age facility he can find, and let you rot there. That's if you're lucky, and you don't deserve to be.
You use the word "mold" here. Whatever you mold your child into will resemble the stereotypical form of modern art- a grotesque abstract sculpture with lots of pointy ends, perhaps made entirely with used syringes and broken dreams.
The metaphor may have crumbled a bit there, sure, but you get the idea.
Confused?
So were we! You can find all of this, and more, on Fundies Say the Darndest Things!
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