Bro. Randy #fundie

Bro. Randy #fundie teens-4-christ.org

When I started to answer this post, I started to talk about the reasons why someone would be raped and who is at fault. But, that is not the topic here. To directly answer your question: I believe there is a physical purity and a spiritual purity. The physical purity is gone. It was stolen from her. But her spiritual purity may not be. This is where we have to examine the 'why' behind the rape. If someone is dressed immodestly, is drinking or doing drugs that cause her to loose her inhibitions, or is somewhere she should not be, then she did contribute to the crime. For example: There was a girl in our youth group some time ago. This girl was clearly in rebellion to the Lord. One night, she decided that she wanted to visit her friend, but her parents brought her to church. When she got to church, she quickly left and started walking to her friends house. She was raped less than 300 yards from the church property. Was the rapist wrong? Absolutely. Was she? Did she contribute to the situition? Yes, she did. If she had been obedient to the authorities over her (her parents, the church's rules and workers), she would have stayed at church and been safe.

Spiritual purity is a heart condition. By the way -- Spiritual purity can be lost without ever touching another person or being touched by another person.

86 comments

old comment by Sierra

I hate to be put in the position of defending Bro. Randy, even if just a tiny bit, but he has the seed of a valid point. Since criminals exist, one needs to take prudent actions. I mean, I don't stand around at the ATM with $20 bills hanging out of my pockets. I have a right to do that, but it may contribute to a bad result. One can contribute to a bad result, without being "at fault."
As usual, the rest of what Bro. R. has to say is crap.

Yea, don't stand by the ATM with $20 hanging out of your pocket if you don't want to get robbed, and don't go out in public with your vagina if you don't want to get raped. You're usually right on the money papabear, but honestly, she didn't do anything to "contribute to a bad result" besides being female. It is nowhere near as reasonable to suggest that women lock themselves in the house as it is to suggest that people should keep their cash in their pocket.

old comment by Calilasseia

So, a teenage girl is raped 300 yards from a church, and what is Brother Randy's response?

To heap blame upon the victim.

I hope you are reading this, Brother Randy. Because I want to tell you right now, that you are among the most verminous and pestilential individuals I have heard of, and I have encountered some particularly egregious examples of insidious and venomous persons in my time - a surprisingly large percentage of the recent ones being fundamentalists like you, as it so happens. You are right up there with Fred Phelps and Randall Terry, two other festering and excremental pieces of self-propelled pustular matter that make most reasonable human beings ashamed to be a part of the same species.

It speaks volumes that none of your self-righteous little clique at that church even knew this was happening to that poor, terrified girl, and judging by your words after the fact, none of you could give a damn about her. As far as you are all concerned, her importance lay solely in being a vagina on legs with an intact hymen. Now that she's been raped, you compound her agony by heaping guilt and shame upon her, and all because she didn't conform to your narrow, blinkered vision of propriety.

Just one question, Brother Randy, just one question. What if it had been your mother? Would you still be issuing unctuous and oleaginous sermons on 'purity' then?

The really sad part is, given the reputation you have acquired as a terminal case of the fundamentalist mind virus, I cannot even console myself with the thought that you would answer the above in a manner that would not rule out your sermonising even if it was your own mother that had been raped. The absence of basic human empathy you display is one of the most terrifying indictments of the fundamentalist condition I can find.

If you should happen to pass this way, Brother Randy, then read this: the stench you leave in your wake is so vile that it makes me want to retch, and I am on a different continent separated from yours by three and a half thousand miles of ocean. Yet I can still sense your stink in my nostrils.