well Gaol, if you mean the difference between what Liberal myth-makers consider "pure science" and actual science, yes I see a big difference. The whole "Christians are anti-science" myth was created by pro-abortion types to justify their views, not by any intelligent argument, but rather by smearing their opponent. there's no more truth to what they say than there is to rasenkunde taught by the scientists at the University of Berlin in the 1930s.
As for pure science vs technology, you arent going to advance in one without advancing in the other. And I notice you dont respond to any other era I note besides Byzantine.
We would not have walked on the Moon if it werent for the advances made by the Dutch back when they were co-religionists with the Puritans.
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Well claimed sir! Well claimed!
The latest news from Fantasy Labs Inc. is that they are close to proving that Hitler was actually an ectoplasmic product of the desert dwelling descendents of Dutchmen who were trying to cross their beards with camels. The downside to that is if they hadn't been successful, we would probably be jumping over the moon by now, at perigee of course.
People think that Christians are anti-science because Christians are out there even today claiming that evolution is impossible, the Big Bang theory couldn't possibly happen, and fighting stem-cell research because "it kills babies." And that's not even getting into the crazed nutjobs like Andy Schlafly who claims that Einstein's Theory of Relativity is false and invented by liberals in order to promote abortion.
If Christians don't want to be portrayed as anti-science, they shouldn't be anti-science.
Most Christians are not anti-science, that is correct. Only some of the Bible-literalist fundies are.
No-one has ever professed to be pro-abortion, stupid. (Well, maybe the Nazis, as they only prohibited abortions for Aryan women.)
Rassenkunde wasn’t just taught in Berlin in the 1930s, silly. Most universities in Europe had studies in Racial Biology (or eugenics) then. It was the horrors of the Holocaust, and the realization how frighteningly far some people were willing, and sometimes even eager (Mengele; I’m looking at you!), to take eugenics, that broke its dominance, and instead brought in humanist ideas of equality and human rights.
Science and technology do indeed need each other, which is why you don't want to mix in nonsense like Creationism, which hinders science and is useless for technology.
We would not have walked on the Moon if it werent for the advances made by the Dutch back when they were co-religionists with the Puritans.
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"Whatever Matt Dedinas is smoking....I DO NOT want it!"
As for the rest, MOST REASONABLE RELIGIOUS PEOPLE BELIEVE IN SCIENCE & EVOLUTION, YOU DUMMYHEAD! WHY IS THAT SO HARD FOR FRUM-FACES LIKE YOU TO FREAKIN' UNDERSTAND?!
I challenge you to invent ANYTHING by using just the Bible as source material. Then and only then can you claim that religion is responsible for technology. Otherwise, it's far more likely that any technologies the Dutch developed were more due to observation of nature (science) than religion. I will agree that Christians aren't, as a whole, anti-science. There are plenty of Christians who were also great scientists. However, those who take Christianity most literally ARE anti-science. Because the book they cater to is anti-science. Not only is it demonstrably wrong about many, many scientific facts but it never changes and is still expected to be taken as an authority. That's the exact opposite of science. In science things get debunked and new information is discovered. Our texts constantly get updated as a result.
Well Matt, if you mean the difference between actual science and what christianist myth-makers call science, yes therre is a big difference. Duane Gish, when asked what should be done about the disagreements between the fossil record and the bible, said "we have to get to work on these things and find out why they don't conform more closely to scripture".
The whole "Christians are anti-science" myth was created by pro-abortion types to justify their views.
In fact the anti-science stance of Christians was being mocked by Maimonides in the twelfth century.
We would not have walked on the Moon if it werent for the advances made by the Dutch back when they were co-religionists with the Puritans.
Or the Islamic Arabs or the polytheist Greeks.
We wouldn't have walked on the moon if not for the Chinese invention of rockets.
Also, pretty sure people noticed that Christians were anti-science long before there Roe v. Wade. Like, in ancient Alexandria, Renaissance Italy, etc.
SCIENCE ACCORDING TO MATT DEDINAS:
LIBERAL "PURE SCIENCE" - The human species & today's apes & monkeys descended from a common primate ancestor, which is proven by fossils, DNA, etc....Therefore it's horse-puckey because it contradicts a literal interpretation of the first few chapters of Genesis.
WINGNUT "REAL SCIENCE" - The Big Guy In The Sky made everything poof magically into existence 6000 years ago. Our ancestors were a guy made of dirt and his rib-bone wife. All the bad stuff in the world is due to these two being tricked by a talking snake into eating a magical fruit. Therefore, IT'S TRUE IT'S TRUE!
Right, the Puritans. Y'know the ones that built the sea-faring cargo tallships that brought people to America, that invented machine after machine and knew all of the most effective ways of agriculture and livestock rai,,, no wait,that wasn't them.
No you see they wanted and strived towards Biblical life and the Bible has no practical info, sorry revisionist, the Dutch certainly contributed to knowledge but that's because they weren't remotely all fucking puritans.
That's like comparing the chocolateers to the physicists that frequent their shops. Willy Wonka's just a story dude.
Oh and a slam on preWW2 german high education. Ironic, as most your (and Russias) early rocket designers were farmed from there after the war.
Matt, please come here and tell us where your getting this shit from. I suspect the same place you usually get it, but if you're influenced by anyone please give us their names so we can mock them too.
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