I'm sure you are aware of how violent America's and the world's community of youths have gotten, even at very young ages.
[Two stories of teen violence, neither of which mention anything about atheism.]
Now do you realize who the people are who are responsible for children having gotten so violent? The answer is ATHEISTS and other non-beleivers in the true God. So you may ask how can this be? The reason why they are responsible is because they hate God and teach their children against God (which is the highest form of child abuse). For example: Atheists hate the TEN COMMANDMENTS because God is their Author. In the TEN COMMANDMENTS, God commands all mankind not to kill, not to steal, to honor our parents and so forth. Since atheists hate God and His Commandments, they teach their children and the children they have authority over against God and against His commandments. There is no other morality other than God's Moral Law. God is the Author of all morality. Since atheists teach children against God's morality, they have to in turn be teaching them to do the very things God says not to do.
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Yeah, cuz when Europe was ruled by christians and christianity, there was no violence of any kind there... oh, wait...
If atheists teach their children it's OK to kill, steal, commit adultery, etc., how come Japan, where atheism rates approach 90%, has one of the lowest incidences of these things?
Sorry, which 'ten' commandments am I supposed to hate? Is Mr. Lee not aware that there is more than one set, according to his Bible? It's just a shame that we atheists can read.
And John, people in Japan are not predominantly atheists - Shinto (which is one of the 2 predominant religions here) is a polytheistic religion.
Mr. Turquoise
Amos, this is because the creator originally set out to make a pizza, a small cheese and pepperoni affair, and things like mountains and civilisations got added out of last minute enthusiasm, as is so often the case.
John: Actually the majority of Japan is religious ...
I was going by a study that stated that fewer than 10% of Japanese are certain god exists - maybe "agnostic" would have been a better term. I don't want to speak for the Japanese, but it looks like many participate in traditional religious observances the way many of us celebrate Christmas - more by tradition than religion.
Well, let´s say that in a country where 80% are Christian, your thesis are not very credible. Talk to Al-Qaeda about God´s "morality" they hold. Or the Crusaders, for that matter.
Or they could be teaching them not to waste the only lives they get by not killing, raping, plundering, etc...
By the way, how is it possible that the number of agnostics and atheist in prison is minimum, even compared to the percentage they represent in population?, and why in religious ridden countries they double the criminal rate?, didn´t you think that it´s POVERTY which causes violence?. By the way, neither of the stories you mention are connected to atheist.
The nonsensical conclusions about morality aside, Robert didn't even bother to offer up any evidence that the people in question are, or were raised by, atheists.
Wrong again dipshit.
I raised my two kids without any Biblical or other religious interference and you know what, they've never had so much as a school yard fight. No drugs, no disrespecting authority, excellent grades in school.
Where did I go wrong? </sarcasm>
Now, jokes aside, not only crime figures are lower in Europe, a non-practicing place in general than in United States, not very practicing but MORE practicing. I have to say that in Nigeria or Peru, particular representatives of the muslim and Christian faith in some cases or Mexico, which is a fairly religious country, the criminality rate is alarming. Just a piece of information to tell that the thesis of this guy is erroneous. However, it´s useless arguing with this guy. One, as the webmaster says, this guy represents o'00001% of Christianity and most people ignore him, atheist and theist alike. Second, it´s a round eternal return cycle. There is data, and there are facts but this guy has its own system of thinking, if not recurring to conspirancy theories or his own sturborness on the subject.
Well, sometimes, when there are blatant prooves that discredit in a plain and flat way what they say, they stop or just try to run away, but it´s not always the case(more often than not). They do asume that they are a group of crackpots and that nobody pays attention to them, of course, but they say that because they have that curious blessing of enjoying the comodities of the modern world and the freedom not to take part in them.
There are many who claim that the Ten Commandments are somehow an expression of moral laws without examining the actual text of the commandments.
1. You shall have no other gods before Me.
Pluralism and religious tollerism are bad!
2. You shall not make for yourself an idol, or any likeness of what is in heaven above or on the earth beneath or in the water under the earth.
Art is bad. Emphasize that religious tolleration is also bad.
3. You shall not take the name of the LORD your God in vain, for the LORD will not leave him unpunished who takes His name in vain.
Saying bad words against God is worse than abusing your wife.
4. Remember the sabbath day, to keep it holy.
The seventh day holy rest should not be part of the moral code, it is a religious observance. Most Christians who praise the Ten commandments do not obey the fourth.
5. Honor your father and your mother, that your days may be prolonged in the land which the LORD your God gives you.
No qualifications given about when your father and mother are evil sobs.
6. You shall not murder.
OK they have a good one.
7. You shall not commit adultery.
What is between consenting adults is between consenting adults.
8. You shall not steal.
Another good one got in.
9. You shall not bear false witness against your neighbor.
I'll concede three out of ten.
10. You shall not covet your neighbor's house; you shall not covet your neighbor's wife or his male servant or his female servant or his ox or his donkey or anything that belongs to your neighbor.
Your neighbor's wife is something that belongs to your neighbor. Wives are property, don't you know.
"There is no other morality other than God's Moral Law. God is the Author of all morality. Since atheists teach children against God's morality, they have to in turn be teaching them to do the very things God says not to do."
This is the most offensive of all. Actually it's all pretty offensive and ignorant, but my point is that Christians don't have a monopoly on morality, especially the fundies.
That's a huge pile of non sequiturs. Some of the commandments have value - not because they are supposedly God's word, but because it's just about impossible to have a civilized society where murder, false witness, and theft are permitted. Most of the commandments aren't worth the rock they were chiseled into.
Since atheists teach children against God's morality, they have to in turn be teaching them to do the very things God says not to do."
When teaching my sons how to cook, I have NEVER told them to boil a goat in its mother's milk. 0_o
wow. blanketing. Just to clarify, atheists don't believe in your wee story because we are intelligent people. We can see through the fact that christianity is a regulatory force. We have the judicial system now. Times have moved on, why don't you
Atheists hate the TEN COMMANDMENTS because God is their Author.
There. It's plain as day. When the religious hear the word "atheist" they automatically substitute "misotheist." They simply can't comprehend the idea of atheism.
There is no other morality other than God's Moral Law.
Yeah, God's moral law, which tells you to kill your kids. Oh wait, you're in favor of killing children. Right. I'm afraid I can't make fun of you; your ideas have reached Critical Nonsense, the point at which they become their own parody.
You make all civilized people sick.
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Now do you realize who the people are who are responsible for children having gotten so violent? The answer is FUNDIES and other believers in the 'true' God. So you may ask how this can be. The reason why they are responsible is because they hate non-believers and teach their children to hate non-believers (which is the highest form of child abuse). For example: Fundies hate being contradicted because their word is the Word of God. Common sense tells us mankind should not to kill, steal and be generally cruel to the rest of humanity and so forth. Since Fundies hate non-believers and common sense, they teach their children that they have authority over other people's rights as humans. There are many different beliefs as to what makes something morally right. God is not the Author of all morality. Since fundies teach children to obey a big daddy in the sky, they have to in turn be teaching them to do the very things that common sense says not to do.
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Now do you realize who the people are who are responsible for children having gotten so violent? "
If we look at history, often when religion ruled there was violence. Just look at the Dark Ages. Also please explain why violent crime has gone down since the 90s.
"The answer is ATHEISTS and other non-beleivers in the true God. So you may ask how can this be? The reason why they are responsible is because they hate God and teach their children against God (which is the highest form of child abuse). "
If they don't believe in it how can they hate it? And child abuse? You should see what has happened in various Christian homes. Also what about the violence done in god's name?
"For example: Atheists hate the TEN COMMANDMENTS because God is their Author. In the TEN COMMANDMENTS, God commands all mankind not to kill, not to steal, to honor our parents and so forth. Since atheists hate God and His Commandments, they teach their children and the children they have authority over against God and against His commandments."
Actually many atheists and us Pagans try our best to live by not killing nor stealing. And there are Christians who have killed and stolen. Plus your Bible has god commanding others to kill
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