TheChampion #fundie

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Evolution much have been taking a long break from work when all these miraculous chemistry processes were going on. To just leave behind dogs and cats and chickens, where they did not also "evolve" like minkeys. And why minkeys, couldn't evolution have just left minkeys alone? I mean, wasn't life better swinging from trees and eating bananas? Now we got to put up with traffic and Christmas shopping and bills and liberals and all kinds of annoying things. Why minkeys? Couldn't have bears evolved into big hairy Chewbaccas and subjugated the animal kingdom.

I can't quite get how man could be so arrogant to think that he would be so special that evolution would single him out for higher intelligence, leaving behind alllllll other animals and mammals and reptiles and doggies and kitties and all that. It makes no sense really. Evolution makes no sense. The big picture of evolution cannot be reconciled with statistics, or science for that matter. It is all quite murky and we are asked to simply take it all on faith.....because it takes a lot of faith to believe it all. And God help you if you disagree with the science community. You have to stand back and let them refute their own theories, which they do regularly.

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old comment by Doctor Whom

To just leave behind dogs and cats and chickens, where they did not also "evolve" like minkeys.

Minkeys?

And why minkeys, couldn't evolution have just left minkeys alone?

At the same time, if humankind evolved from "minkeys," why are there still "minkeys"? I do wish you people would get your dogma straight, given that it's infallible and all.

I can't quite get how man could be so arrogant to think that he would be so special that evolution would single him out for higher intelligence, leaving behind alllllll other animals and mammals and reptiles and doggies and kitties and all that.

But it's just self-evident why God would do so? Quick, get the fire extinguisher; my irony meter is really going to blow up this time.

And God help you if you disagree with the science community.

Nnnnnooooobody expects the Science Inquisition!

old comment by Star Cluster

Evolution is science, you big frigging moron. We are at the top of the intelligence scale because we evolved that way. It took millions of years to get to this point. And contrary to what you want to claim, evolution is still taking place. But because it is such a slow process, we can't see it taking place on a grand scale. We can see little bits of it taking place; what you Bible thumpers call microevolution, but it takes a really, really long time for the cumulative effect to become apparent (macroevolution, as you people love to refer to it and say doesn't occur.) And who's to say that eventually, bears (or any other animal) won't evolve into a more intelligent creature. There are some rather intelligent animals out there, now.
One thing the fossil records show us is where all plant and animal life came from, but cannot give us more than a best guess as to where we are heading in the process.

old comment by Zipperback

I can't quite get how man could be so arrogant to think that he would be so special that evolution would single him out for higher intelligence, leaving behind alllllll other animals and mammals and reptiles and doggies and kitties and all that. It makes no sense really. Evolution makes no sense.
If ten thousand people start a marathon TheChampion would be amazed by the incredible imporbability that one of them crosses the finish line first. In his mind the only realistic outcome is that everyone will finish the race, what's more they will cross the finish line at exactly the same moment regardless of their position on the starting line or physical condition.

old comment by BadBambi

"I can't quite get how Creationists could be so arrogant to think that humans would be so special that God would single them out for higher intelligence, the rule of the entire earth, entry to heaven etc. leaving behind alllllll other animals and mammals and reptiles and doggies and kitties and all that. It makes no sense really. Creationism makes no sense. The big picture of goddiddit cannot be reconciled with statistics, or science for that matter. It is all as murky as Ken Ham's backside, and we are asked to simply take it all on faith.....because it takes a lot of faith, dishonesty and strawmen to believe it all. And God help you if you disagree with the Creationist community. You have to stand back and let them refute their own theories, what between the YEC's and the OEC's and the ID crowd, which they do regularly."
There, that's better.

old comment by Zadic

I can't quite get how man could be so arrogant to think that he would be so special that evolution would single him out for higher intelligence, leaving behind alllllll other animals and mammals and reptiles and doggies and kitties and all that.

I can't quite get how man could be so arrogant as to think that a higher being not only loves them more than all other animals which he created without intelligent thought, but also that this higher being created man in his image. I also can't believe you are so stupid and uneducated. Evolution makes no sense to you because you do not understand what it is. Go back to school and learn something for once before you go around arguing against something with bs like this that shows how ignorant you really are. Btw, man wasn't the only animal to become sentient. There are over a dozen of others which we shared a common ancestor with, that simply did not survive to modern day.

old comment by SaneChick

The more I look at this post, the more it bothers me.
I'm convinced some fundies willfully misunderstand evolution. Don't they understand that dogs and cats are the result of evolution, just like we are? And that we're all STILL evolving? Dogs and cats and other domesticated animals are an interesting case though, because humans have stepped in and had a direct hand in their breeding, influencing their evolution. But, if you look at it logically, dogs and cats have evolved to a pretty incredibly niche on the evolutionary ladder. They've become companion animals, which means that in some cases they're loved and protected and fed for their entire lives and all they have to do in return is learn not to shit on the carpet. And, it's not like there's no precedent for human intelligence in the animal world. It's fairly easy to imagine whales, dophins, and many of the primates evolving human-like intelligence given enough time. Hell, it's so easy to imagine that it's spawned some pretty fantastic science fiction! I think one of the reasons fundies have a hard time with evolution is they tend to think of living things as either human or non-human, forgetting that we're all just animals. If we evolved to where we are, another animal will eventually do it. Also, there are certain inherents risks to evolving to our level. In the last century, we finally aquired the technology to make it possible to utterly destroy ourselves as a species. From an evolutionary standpoint, that might represent the point of diminishing returns. It's really early here, and I'm probably not making all that much sense, but I had to rant or my brain was going to explode!

old comment by CailinBan

@SaneChick, you're brilliant!

I loved: "dogs and cats have evolved to a pretty incredibly niche on the evolutionary ladder. They've become companion animals, which means that in some cases they're loved and protected and fed for their entire lives and all they have to do in return is learn not to shit on the carpet."

Classic! Plus the Inspector Clouseau comment.

Look, I'm a woman, and straight but even so, will you go out on a date with ME?

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And re the original post - there are plenty of intelligent animals out there as well as humans. Crows for example have been shown opening cages. Squirrels figure out obstacles courses. Etc etc.

And who knows what dolphins would do if they only had opposable thumbs?