[An actual baptist fundie preacher trolls an atheist mom's weblog. Lots of nonsense, but this is the worst.]
In God's eyes, rape is the same as denying God. I would even wager that God views denying him to be the bigger sin and will punish the atheist more than the rapist. The rapist might believe in God but be misled in his actions. The atheist knowlingly denies God. The atheist commits the unforgivable sin. The rapist only sins towards his fellow man.
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Since, I do not believe in a god, I am not guilty of any sin. And since there is no god, "sin" against a fellow human being is despicable. To even try to rationalize rape in any way is callous.
"In God's eyes, rape is the same as denying God."
You speak for God?
"I would even wager that God views denying him to be the bigger sin and will punish the atheist more than the rapist."
And welcome to another great game of "Rate the Sin."
"The rapist might believe in God but be misled in his actions."
So, the rapist is could be suffering from Xian delusions AND be a heinous asshole.
"The atheist knowlingly denies God."
If you mean that she knows that she denies God exists, that's true. If you're trotting out Paul's old twaddle about atheists denying the existance of a God they KNOW to exist, you're wrong, and you should be ashamed to have used that ridiculous claim.
"The atheist commits the unforgivable sin."
Your Bible claims all things are possibly with God, therefore, God may forgive the atheist and send you two hell.
"The rapist only sins towards his fellow man."
Oh, well, that's OK then. [/sarcasm]
And now it's time for fundies favorite game: "Rate the Sin". The object of this game is judge as many people, mostly atheists and the homosexuals, as possible before people realize what a huge self-collapsing vortex of hypocritsy you are.
Yeah, rapists are just poor, misunderstood, and misled, but all those evil atheists, well, they're just out to screw God over, right?
This is why I dislike these people so much. There's no room in their tiny minds to accept that someone else might actually see things differently.
I didn't know that there were sins towards men. I always thought that all sins were towards God. I mean, I thought that was the essence of what sin was . That was sort of the point of making up sin. Thank you for better educating me on that matter, Will. Call God a poo-head, straight, no-return ticket to hell. Eat babies, destroy civilizations, manage a genocide or two...eh. They're just people. *shrug*
The rapist might believe in God but be misled in his actions.
Sorry, miss. I was misled in my actions. I followed my dick straight into your vagina, not stopping to think whether I should ask for permission or not.
Really, it's the kind of thing that could happen to anyone, like taking the wrong exit off the freeway.
In God's eyes, rape is the same as denying God.
How can you speak for god? Is this written in your bible somewhere or did you just make it up to rationalise your theism by comparing it to one of the most despicable acts?
I would even wager that God views denying him to be the bigger sin and will punish the atheist more than the rapist.
Wager away, you tool. Unlike your hypothetical rapist, the atheist does not do anything to harm another human. I just cannot fathom how denying mythology is worse than harming someone. It's the equivalent of saying that 2+2=5.
The rapist might believe in God but be misled in his actions.
The rapist has harmed another human being and possibly scarred her for life. Whether he believes in an imaginary policeman is beside the point, you sick fuck.
The atheist knowlingly denies God.
And rightly so since so far no one has been able to provide evidence for the existence of any god, not to mention any specific god who would be sick and twisted enough to overlook rape.
The atheist commits the unforgivable sin.
There is no such thing as a "sin".
The rapist only sins towards his fellow man.
Didn't jesus say something about treating others as though you were treating him? This would mean that an act of rape against any person is technically an act of rape against your god.
Go die in an oil fire already.
One of the central tenets of Jesus's teachings was that all sins, no matter what they were or how small they might seem, were equally damning in the sight of God, and therefore mere lust was as bad as adultery, mere hatred as bad as murder.
"Rating sin" was exactly what Jesus preached against, teaching the arrogant self-righteous fools of his day that they had no right to call themselves "good people" and calling them out for their hypocrisy in condemning others for their sins, when they themselves were guilty of the same.
Failure to understand this very basic foundational principle of Christianity proves that you haven't got a fuckin' clue about your own religion, William. You might try READING the New Testament before claiming you know anything about Christianity and Christian teachings and God.
Why in the world do fundies spend so much time thinking about rape? There are usually 10-15 posts a month talking about rape or with rape apologist overtones. It really makes me wonder.
Edit: Wow, I went and read the whole thing. I wouldn't have been as restrained as "Atheist in a Minivan" considering some of the personal attacks he made about her parenting.
Why is it, do you think, that a God who created the entire universe by fiat and who has all the power that one could possibly imagine and more, would really give a shit about whether a puny human believes he exists? The bacteria in my gut may think that I don't exist, but I don't really care. I'm not seeking to wipe them out with antibiotics (yet).
"The atheist commits the unforgivable sin. The rapist only sins towards his fellow man."
I remember in Hebrew school being taught that God would forgive sins against God, but for sins against people, only the victims could forgive. In other words, the exact reverse of what you're saying.
*hits Christianity for its general suggesting that God autoforgives /all/ sins*
"Sorry, miss. I was misled in my actions. I followed my dick straight into your vagina, not stopping to think whether I should ask for permission or not.
Really, it's the kind of thing that could happen to anyone, like taking the wrong exit off the freeway."
SaneChick: That is so fucking hilarious you owe me a keyboard.
Coffee: "It seems fundies think that if enough atheists don't believe in Gawd, Gawd will disappear."
Actually, this is true. It happened to Zeus and hundreds of other mythical "gods" that no one believes in any more. It's only a matter of time before babble gawd goes the same way as all its predecessors.
I also don't understand why Gawd the Omnipotent should give a rat's ass whether we believe in him or not. Or will our disbelief cause him to wink out of existence?
It seems fundies think that if enough atheists don't believe in Gawd, Gawd will disappear.
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NotMe: According to Jesus sinning against him or god was forgivable. But don't sin against the holy ghost, that'll give you a one way ticket to hell.
But according to the trinity model, Jesus, god and the holy ghost are one and the same. Technically, sinning against any is like sinning against all. Maybe this is yet another flaw in this retarded religion.
I am an atheist, but if there was a God who saw rape as worse than an insult to his honor and did nothing to punish the rapist while punishing the insulter, then I wish to declare war on this God and put him in front of a jury for crimes against humanity.
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