Arpaio on Thursday unveiled preliminary results of an investigation, conducted by members of his volunteer cold-case posse, into the authenticity of President Barack Obama's birth certificate, a controversy that has been widely debunked but which remains alive in the eyes of some conservatives.
At a news conference, Arpaio said the probe revealed that there was probable cause to believe Obama's long-form birth certificate released by the White House in April is a computer-generated forgery. He also said the selective service card completed by Obama in 1980 in Hawaii also was most likely a forgery.
"We don't know who the perpetrators are of these documents," Arpaio said, although he said he doesn't think the president forged the documents.
Earlier, the 79-year-old Republican sheriff defended his need to spearhead such an investigation after nearly 250 people connected to an Arizona tea party group requested one last summer.
"I'm not going after Obama," said Arpaio, who has criticized the president's administration for cutting off his federal immigration powers and conducting a civil rights investigation of his office. "I'm just doing my job."
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"I'm just doing my job."
Yeah, being King of the Assholes. You do it well, Arpaio.
[Shouldn't this really be in CSTDT? No fundy smell here. - Thank you for moving this to the right forum!]
"I'm just doing my job."
Why is this ringing a bell with me? Hmmm.
"I vas chust doing mein job. I vas only obeying orders."
I'd call him The Prison Nazi, but it would probably invoke a Godwin.
Oops.
"So they call me 'Concentration Camp Erhardt'."
Do you know what this 'investigation' consisted of? They looked at the scan of the cert in PhotoShop or something, and determined it was a fake because it had 'too many layers'. Yeah, scans can do that.
First off, this should be in Conspiracy Theorists say the Darnedest Things....
Secondly, Arpaio is saying that back in 1980, 28 years before Obama would declare himself a presidential candidate, someone forged him a Selective Service card. Why? So Obama could have the chance to serve in the armed forces if needed? Or is he implying that Obama was being groomed as a Manchurian Candidate.
Yeah, definitely belongs in CSTDT....
Except that, since the authenticity of Obama's birth certificate has been proven beyond a reasonable doubt, you ARE going after Obama, Joe. Your hatred of immigrants is such that you even accuse natural-born citizens of being immigrants so that you can discriminate against them. Of course, I suppose this behavior is expected of someone who refuses to investigate cases of child abuse as this gets in the way of his monomaniacal agenda.
Just doing your job? Since when are federal election laws the jurisdiction of some sheriff in Arizona?
@dionysus:
There was a report which showed that there is a direct correlation with the health of the economy with the number of birther and other anti-Obama comments from Republicans on the internet. The report suggested that it was even more reliable than the S&P.
"We don't know who the perpetrators are of these documents,"
We do. (sneezes) Ah, ah... ah ITSYOU!
Anyone got that "Scientific Method versus Religious Method" poster handy? You know, the one where you select a conclusion and then set out to find evidence to prove it?
At 79, I think it's too late for the hard-bitten, hard-arteried, Arpaio to learn any life lessons, so I guess the polite thing to do would be to wait for him to die and take his bile with him.
A birther opens an investigation of the President's birth certificate.
The birther announces it's a FORGERY!!
OH MY GOD THIS IS HEADLINE NEWS!!
Y'know.
Someone should send this guy an actual forgery that says Obama was born in Africa, but it has somewhere in amongst the small text 'This is a parody it is not real do not take seriously'.
See if these blowhards actually read it.
All he has to do is get all the federal agents who did newly-elected Senator Obama's background checks for his security clearance to testify.
FBI performs record checks with various Federal agencies and local law enforcement, as well as, a review of credit history.
Candidate completes forms SF-86 and FD-258. Once favorably adjudicated for a Secret security clearance, the candidate will be required to sign a Non-Disclosure Agreement.
The scope of the investigation varies with the level of the clearance being sought. It is designed to allow the government to assess whether a candidate is sufficiently trustworthy to be granted access to classified information. Applicants must meet certain criteria, relating to their honesty, character, integrity, reliability, judgement, mental health, and association with undesirable persons or foreign nationals.
Didn't the technology to scan a document and create layers and fields in it come out like.. a decade ago? That's the first I heard of it at least. It must have improved a lot since then. And it's just the sort of thing I would expect the government to use. And I'm willing to bet their 'control' was one their system produced, not one the US government also produced or at least wasn't one produced in the same manner, so it wasn't the same quality.
You cannot tell me that Obama, or anyone 'controlling' him didn't just do the easy thing and create a hard copy, which just about anyone with enough money can do, and scan it in so that they also had a hard copy to wave around if necessary. Instead, they created it on a computer and then, with all their cunning to put a foreign national in the presidency, *forgot* to deal with the *layers*?
Seriously. If these creeps wanted to I bet they could find a way to prove *my* Birth Certificate was a fake if I showed them a scan of it.
Arpaio has demonstrated time and time again that he thinks he's somehow above the law and that he can do things that are in direct contradiction to the constitution, just because he thinks they're right.
That makes him "un-american" and extremely so.
He doen't seem to be aware of Section 9: "The Privilege of the Writ of Habeas Corpus shall not be suspended".
It's no surprise that he thinks his word should be enough to have the president of the United States removed from office.
His job? Bullshit. I'd like to see the paragraph in his contract that says he's responsible for investigating the president.
Btw, he's 79 years old. Biology should take care of him pretty soon.
Hawaii's records are computerized. How could someone tell that the long form, which was generated by a computer, is a forgery just by looking at the document and not at Hawaii's actual computer files?
Forensics Arpaio style:
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I think Mr. Arpaio also has a nice bridge in Brooklyn he can sell you cheap.
@Mister Spak: lmfao. i don't know what's making me laugh so hard, thinking that this would definitely happen just like this, the disdain on the future lady's face, or the fact that you can see baby obama's little hand.
Arpaio, you ARE going after Obama and you have a conflict of interest.
And I despise liars; please step down or back off.
"I'm not going after Obama," said Arpaio
Now I've heard something like that before. What was it? Let me think. Oh dear, what oh what ... OH YES, I know:
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"I'm not a crook"
They never seem to respond to the fact that the Hawaiian Department of Health had Obama's birth announcement published in two Newspapers in 1961, as they did with all births at that time. Apparently they think that evil Democratic time-travelers (oooh, sorry, that's Democrat time-travelers to birthers) journeyed back in time and planted those announcements, too.
CSTDT, not fundie. And I'll say it as much as I want, cause this site isn't what it once was. its become juvenile. winace would not approve, imo.
I reject your conspiracy theory and substitute my own:
Birthers are trying as hard as they can to get Obama re-elected, not removed from office.
Unlike you, I admit I could be wrong...
This is the man who has had his deputies harass and/or arrest reporters and legislators who call him on his bullshit.
The snow bird baby boomer assholes that keep power hungry retards like joe in power in AZ cant die fast enough...
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