David Lee Mundy #fundie

David Lee Mundy #fundie thinkinghousewife.com

A Fairy Warning

"During our recent trip back to the states, we made a visit to Disney World. Of course my young daughters wanted to meet the princesses. Not all the princesses, mind you, since they’ve never seen “The Little Mermaid,” “Aladdin,” “Mulan,” etc. We explained, to the consternation of our immediate family, that we don’t watch those movies because those girls are not modest and don’t obey their fathers.

The line to meet the princesses was surprisingly short. The longer line was for meeting the fairies. To one unfamiliar with the fairy phenomenon, it was shocking. Who would want to meet a fairy over a princess? But apparently that’s the way these days.

I asked my immediate family, “What sort of role model is a fairy?” They flit capriciously about pursuing their own self interests. They aren’t burdened with responsibilities or any concerns beyond the moment. Princesses, meanwhile, are expected to marry princes as well as to bear and raise offspring.

I tried to explain in greater detail but was pointedly told to shut up and enjoy the ride. And, I guess that about sums up our impression of America after a four-year absence."

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old comment by Alcari

Look at the "answer" he recieved:

Fairies may be enchanting and beautiful. They can be useful, especially when you need someone to collect dewdrops from the yard. But they are also moody, mischievous and sometimes downright dangerous. If a human being gets too close to a ring of dancing fairies, he can be drawn into the circle and end up dancing non-stop for seven years. I have occasional problems with household fairies who spin cobwebs in the corners, plant weeds in the garden and throw flour in my face when I am cooking. Though fairies sometimes bestow good luck and make people fall in love, I agree they are not good role models for your daughters.

old comment by dionysus

We explained, to the consternation of our immediate family, that we don’t watch those movies because those girls are not modest and don’t obey their fathers.

In other words they're normal? Oh heaven forbid a girl learns to be normal. And BTW, obedience is for dogs. Humans have the ability to decide if they want to follow someone's lead or if they want to take a stand on a situation by situation basis.

They're fantasy creatures and as such they express an innate human desire in this case being totally carefree. Besides, what do you want, a Disney movie where Tinkerbell is doing her husband's laundry? Who wants to see that?

Princesses, meanwhile, are expected to marry princes as well as to bear and raise offspring.

Right, because in Fundieland a woman's only value is in how many babies she can fling out of her vagina. And incidentally that's why I don't have much hope for our country's future because no matter how hard intelligent people work on advancing science and trying to make the world better they'll always be outnumbered by idiots whose only contribution in life is to create more idiots.

I tried to explain in greater detail but was pointedly told to shut up and enjoy the ride.

I don't know a damn thing about the person who told you this but I already love him/her.

And, I guess that about sums up our impression of America after a four-year absence."

Please try and make it longer next time.

old comment by Anon-e-moose

"What sort of role model is a fairy?"

Compared to, say, Sarah Failin? Infinitely better, I'd say.

And yet, David has no problem with the concept of human-esque talking mice. Mickey & Minnie, Bernard & Miss Bianca...?!

@awitch

"I wonder if his head would explode if he saw Bugs Bunny in drag."

Garth Algar (Dana Carvey): Did you ever find Bugs Bunny attractive when he put on a dress and played girl bunny?'
Wayne Campbell (Mike Myers): 'No.'
[cracks up laughing]
Wayne Campbell: 'No.'
Garth Algar: 'Neither did I. I was just asking.'

-"Wayne's World"

"Guilty Gear's" Bridget. Just throwing that one out there, David.

http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/DroppedABridgetOnHim

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Little Mermaid: Sure, she disobeys her father, but it's all because she's madly infatuated with a guy she's seen for a grand total of ten minutes. She sacrifices everything just to be with a guy that she hasn't even had a conversation with. Not exactly what I'd call a feminist role model.

Aladdin: Yes, how dare Jasmine not want to be bartered like an object and married off to a stranger. She should have just married the prince who tried to hurt beggar children and humiliated Aladdin in public. He seemed like such good husband material.

Mulan: Like The Lazy One said, the only reason Mulan disobeyed her father was because she didn't want him to die. She didn't just dress up as a warrior and run off for the heck of it; she did it because she knew that her father was old and likely wouldn't last long in battle. She was trying to SAVE him, you ignorant twit. But, of course, the mere fact that she proved herself in battle and didn't just roll over and let herself be married off shows that she's worthless.

@nintendofreakgcn: Aha, but she disobeyed her father in the sense that she took his place instead of just leaving him in the dungeon like he told her to do. So, like Mulan, even though Belle disobeyed her father for his sake, she's still wrong for not following his orders. According to this moron's logic.

@rikalous: Yeah, a lot of people have said that the battle between the fairies and Maleficent is the REAL focal point of the movie and Philip and Aurora were just there to provide connections to the original fairytale.

old comment by fhatthewuck

I'm not a fan of the fairies or the princesses. They're just not my kind of movie.
The fairies though, are actually 3-dimensional characters, unlike the early princesses. And they aren't selfish either, they're very community-oriented, always working to make their world better. What do the princesses do? Nothing. They get into trouble and wait for someone else to come and rescue them. (Again, I mean the early princesses, the reactive, rather than active ones that he likes so much.)
Yes, how selfish it is to be an actual person, doing work, not needing rescued, rather than just being some obedient piece of property.
This guy is a bad role-model to his kids.

old comment by TheJebusFire

Not all the princesses, mind you, since they’ve never seen “The Little Mermaid,” “Aladdin,” “Mulan,” etc. We explained, to the consternation of our immediate family, that we don’t watch those movies because those girls are not modest and don’t obey their fathers.

Tritian was a grade A douce that destroyed all of Ariel's things. The Sultan was willing to risk his daughter's happiness for political gain. Mulan's father was crippled, so she took his place in the army because she knew he would die.

In Peter Pan Tinkerbell told Captian Hook where to find Peter Pan and because of her fuck up she had to save Pan from getting blown out of this green spandex.

And, I guess that about sums up our impression of America after a four-year absence.

Then go back to where ever you came from. And what is a man doing a website for housewives anyway?

old comment by Pup

Okay, here goes...

Jasmine disobeyed her father because she wanted to marry for love, not politics.

Mulan disobeyed her father because he was frail and going to war would undoubtedly have killed him. Indirectly related, she also demonstrated that women are just as capable as men on the battlefield.

Both of these are rather justified positions and even their fathers supported them in their decisions in the end.

Of course Ariel's obsession with humans and infatuation with a man she didn't even know which ultimately endangered the entire ocean AND the man she 'loved' was rather selfish.

Painting them all with the same brush on the basis that they disobeyed their fathers is rather ridiculous. But coming from a man that is posted on a website called 'The Thinking Housewife', I suppose it's to be expected.

old comment by David Lee Mundy

Man this thread made my day. Thanks internet. Sorry I'm late. I'd like to thank my mom for telling me to shut up. I'd like to thank Korea for welcoming my family. I'd like to thank all those who made this an epic thread.

If you bother to click through to the thread from thinkinghousewife.com you'll see that the host, Laura, reframed using agree and amplify to point out how ridiculous and pedantic I was being. I didn't respond to her point because she was obviously right. I might not like the fairies, others might not like Disney at all, where's the end and what's the point.

I guess the point is we're trying to inculcate in our children our own sense of moral values derived from the Bible. Many of you disagree. That's ok. But why is your opinion more valid?

Meanwhile, relax. The larger point in my post is that the Christian church just doesn't care about stuff like this anymore. Neither the church nor the country is in the hands of fundies. The Ariels, the Jasmines, and the Mulans are now running the corporations, churches, and country. And everything is working out just fine.

old comment by TWoozl

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David Lee Mundy

If by "fine" you mean "Segments of the population are persecuted by your ilk, but that's okay, and stonewalling thugs want to deny people health care they can't otherwise afford, and the ultra-rich are afraid they might actually have to pay their share, but it's okay, they bought politicians so they don't have to", then yes, we're "fine". Also? The kind of indoctrination you're inflicting on your children will result in fragile, easily bruised egos unprepared to deal with the real world. If you really were moral and just, you would equip them to cope, not to hide.

The validity of our point isn't greater or lesser as an idea, but as a concept, it's certainly more rational and grounded in reality; We don't hide from the world, we address it. On the other hand, I will be entirely blunt? Your Bible is invalid. It can't even remain internally consistent, and it has no relevance to governing modern, secular society. Where are the laws relating to spacecraft, or how to handle hydrazine fuel? Where are the commandments about how to drive safely, or about whether or not antibiotics are acceptable. Hell, on that note, would you care to tell me if you will deny the modern, broad-spectrum antibiotics they use now to treat tuberculosis, because the older drugs no longer work against a pathogen that has evolved resistance to them?

Validity is based on merits, David.

old comment by Swede

My parents encouraged me to ask questions and try on my own. They read to us from Pippi Longstocking and other books of the same author. Movies were rare when I was a kid.

"Faries" are also expected to marry princes, and perhaps raise offspring. Just look at Neil Patrick Harris.

I mostly feel sorry for our Swedish princesses, who were more or less required to find a suitable person, have a insanely large wedding party, and have at least two kids. Both have gotten married (to not so very suitable people, perhaps) and had one daughter each. Just one more kid each (and the eldest sister might be pregnant) and all they have to do for the rest of their lives after that is to cut inaguration tapes, host galas and be staffage figures for charity organizations. And we pay for their living with our taxes... (Yes, I'm not only sorry; I think it's a waste of good tax money, as well.)

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