[How to tell if you child is becoming a homosexual]
Evidences of gender confusion or doubt in boys ages 5 to 11 may include:
1. A strong feeling that they are “different” from other boys.
2. A tendency to cry easily, be less athletic, and dislike the roughhousing that other boys enjoy.
3. A persistent preference to play female roles in make-believe play.
4. A strong preference to spend time in the company of girls and participate in their games and other pastimes.
5. A susceptibility to be bullied by other boys, who may tease them unmercifully and call them “queer,” “fag” and “gay.”
6. A tendency to walk, talk, dress and even “think” effeminately.
7. A repeatedly stated desire to be — or insistence that he is — a girl.
If your child is experiencing several signs of gender confusion, professional help is available. It’s best to seek that help before your child reaches puberty.
“By the time the adolescent hormones kick in during early adolescence, a full-blown gender identity crisis threatens to overwhelm the teenager,” warns psychologist Dr. James Dobson. To compound the problem, many of these teens experience “great waves of guilt accompanied by secret fears of divine retribution.”
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Half of what he says is causing the problem. Conservative Americans worshipped Queen Victoria's ways of raising children, which raises great soldiers, great sheep and really great frustrated people (and out of that shock jocks and people willing to do anything for acceptance.) But that's just one part of the puzzle. I wouldn't say send all the gays off to concentration... er, I mean rehabilitation camps until they're "normal," but I see a lot of gays who are so for attention.
Spaz, I gotta sympathize with you. I preferred talking to women instead of guys.
(Now I'm married to a woman and raising two kids, fancy that!)
Well said, Yahweh. Some definite points for consideration.
Dobson also does right-wing suckup, so stereotyping is much more important. That way you can paint black a grey demographic. Every time I hear the words "homosexual agenda", I have to get someone to roll my eyes back to me.
5. A susceptibility to be bullied by other boys, who may tease them unmercifully and call them �queer,� �fag� and �gay.�
Yup if some middle schooler calls you a fag, your fate is set in stone. Nobody can identify closeted gays more easily then children too young to fully understand sex.
Oh no, I'm gay! No, wait, you're a stupid fundie with no idea as to what you're talking about. Geez, you had me scared there.
By the way, just for the record, my kickboxing, pretend-fighting-me-for-the-fun-of-it-at-school-daily classmate wants a word:P.
Last comment: Thank you very, very much. Sarcasm is my hero:).
Number 5 is giving me an unladylike urge to punch someone. Your kid is bullied; therefore, he must be gay? Of course! After all, the victims of bullying *always* do something to deserve it.
*grumblegrumbleASSHOLEgrumbleFUCKERgrumble....*
It’s best to seek that help before your child reaches puberty.
“By the time the adolescent hormones kick in during early adolescence, a full-blown gender identity crisis threatens to overwhelm the teenager,” warns psychologist Dr. James Dobson.
Oh yes, this man is totally and completely right, someone give him an award. Children suffering from Gender Dysphoria SHOULD be treated before puberty if at all possible with the appropriate hormones --
Oh wait. He's talking about brainwashing. Sorry, love, they tried that for decades and it didn't work. I truly pity any poor child who gets subjected to your "treatment" before adolescence.
2. A tendency to cry easily, be less athletic, and dislike the roughhousing that other boys enjoy.
4. A strong preference to spend time in the company of girls and participate in their games and other pastimes.
6. A tendency to walk, talk, dress and even “think” effeminately.
Stop using stereotypes!!
7. A repeatedly stated desire to be or insistence that he is a girl.
That's gender dysphoria, you moron!
His "diagnosis" is none other than a regurgitation of gay stereotypes. My brother used to watch "Sailor Moon" with me (even though he will not admit it now), but he does not "desire to be a girl" or "think" effeminately. By Dobson's logic, all girls who like to roughhouse with boys, spend more time with boys than girls, and wish to play male roles are lesbians.
Number five is especially a crock. Straight boys call other straight boys gay all the time. To them, it's just a careless insult. The only “great waves of guilt” that come upon real homosexual boys come from fundie nutjobs like you. Do us all a favor and shut up.
#5 pisses me off. It reminds me of a time when a straight teenager committed suicide because his classmates called him a fag all the time, and on those grounds alone, Fred Phelps protested his funeral.
I wouldn't say send all the gays off to concentration... er, I mean rehabilitation camps until they're "normal," but I see a lot of gays who are so for attention.
Yeah, this is a bit of a late response, but Rime?
Kindly go fuck yourself with something sharp.
Tempus, that image macro is a bit too mean-spirited for my tastes...
Anyway, when I was in grade school us girls would sometimes pretend to be boys, it's unfortunate that when a little boy does it the other way round, he is considered abnormal.
No, actually, that last bit is the fault of people like you.
@ Tally:
Have you heard Madonna's What It Feels Like for a Girl ? It sums the reason up quite nicely:
Girls can wear jeans
And cut their hair short
Wear shirts and boots
'Cause it's okay to be a boy
But for a boy to look like a girl is degrading
'Cause you think that being a girl is degrading
But secretly you'd love to know what it's like
Wouldn't you?
What it feels like for a girl
While all of them are utter tripe, this one...
5. A susceptibility to be bullied by other boys, who may tease them unmercifully and call them “queer,” “fag” and “gay.”
...tops it all. If that was the case, virtually every child is gay, then. Since it is overheard as their parent's scapegoat for the ills of the world, the children parrot it on people they feel are unfit. In many cases, anyways.
Yeah, because if you like hanging out with girls instead of wrestling with guys, you're gay.
this quiz is all backwards.
many of these teens WOULDN'T experience “great waves of guilt accompanied by secret fears of divine retribution.” if it wasn't for cunts like you.
Apogies all round for the expletive, but it's people like this that will encourage point 5, and identify potentially gay boys as abnormal needing treatment and possibly punishment or ostracism if they don't straighten out.
A tendency to cry easily, be less athletic, and dislike the roughhousing that other boys enjoy.
Since when has crying and not liking sports=gay?
When your 4 year old cries after a fall are you going to tell him to "stop being gay"?
If your child is experiencing several signs of gender confusion, professional help is available.
Or you could just let your child be themselves. You should be thankful and loving towards the child you have, instead of trying to change them into someone else.
?? “great waves of guilt accompanied by secret fears of divine retribution.”
After all, what the fuck can be done about THAT?
Funny, I didn't show any of the signs growing up. And yet, here I am. Gay as can be. Of course, I'm a lesbian and fundies think we don't exist.
1. A strong feeling that they are “different” from other boys.
Uh oh. Guilty as charged. I'm an artist - some have even said "sensitive".
2. ...dislike the roughhousing that other boys enjoy.
Uh...football players, marines, sailors - no gays there, are there.
4. A strong preference to spend time in the company of girls ...
That rips it. I'm a lesbian!, Oh no!
5. A susceptibility to be bullied by other boys, who may tease them unmercifully and call them “queer,” “fag” and “gay.
Don't all kids do this? NO? Only to me? Oh, shit. Then I must really be ugly and stupid, too.
As someone who enjoys roleplaying as female characters in games, who doesn't like to be athletic, who's been mocked as "faggot" and "gay" because I am very sensitive, and who just happens to be straight as a board, STFU shitface.
2. Check
5. Check. I was a small kid, and this is what happened on my street.
3. Sometimes. I'd play with my sister on rainy days, when we were stuck in the house. It rains a lot here.
I turned out straight. That shoots your theory to hell. But it's only a "theory."
Gender confusion =/= homosexuality.
What about the "gender confusion" in girls?
I felt that I was different from other girls.
I spent a lot of time in the company of boys, as I have two younger brothers.
I was bullied by both boys and girls.
I'm still heterosexual and have been together with my husband for 23 years.
You are talking about transexualism, not homosexualism, dumbass. Shouldn't a psychologist know the difference?
And yes, professional help is available. If you really feel that you are born in the wrong body, that can be rectified, to quite a large extent.
But that was not what you meant, was it "Doctor"? At what diploma mill did you get your doctorate?
All the homosexuals I know, both men and women, are very secure in their gender identity. They also feel no guilt in any way, they can't help how they were born, or "created".
"To compound the problem, many of these teens experience “great waves of guilt accompanied by secret fears of divine retribution.”"
I wonder where that comes from. Wankers like you and your God I expect.
"Fear of divine retribution" - gee, I wonder where they got that notion.
A gender-nonconforming child in fundie circles doesn't bear thinking about. I can only imagine the life-long scarring.
In other words, you should condemn your transsexual child to a living hell of guilt, misery and pain.
If even one person has followed your instructions, I could kill you without losing sleep. Having experienced a fraction of what you think should be inflicted on transsexuals, my only regret would be that I couldn't torture you enough to feel half of that pain. At least without going insane.
I'm not trying to be an Internet tough girl here, but seeing a bigoted, ignorant parent destroy the life of an innocent child while claiming it's for their own good just disgusts me more than anything else can.
Adults are meant to care for children and nurture them, and this.. This worthless excuse for a man wants to betray them and destroy any chance at happiness they'll ever have.
I wasn't an athlete at age 5, QED: I must be gay.
Or, genius mail-order doctor, some of us are faster mentally than physically.
And I was bullied for being a nerd, and prefer to spend time with women anyway.
Why? Because most can actually put up a good conversation.
And my young-adult pervert tendencies.
1. Most gays KNOW they are men / women.
2. Many gay men are macho, macho men. Many gay women are very feminine.
3. See item 2.
4. I bet lesbians LOVE to spend time in the company of girls.
5. All boys tease each other and call each other queer, fag and gay.
6. See item 2.
7. See item 2.
The only ones who experience “great waves of guilt accompanied by secret fears of divine retribution" are the ones brought up by fundies. People brought up by normal people realize that you're fine the way you are.
Gender confusion is not the same as homosexuality, stupid. Male-to-female trans-gender persons can be either heterosexual or homosexual.
Only teens who are told by people around them that homosexuality or gender confusion is wrong, experience "great waves of guilt accompanied by secret fears of divine retribution", strangely enough. Those who have instead been told that these things happen and they're neither right nor wrong, cope much better when realizing that they are either gay or trans-gender.
Edit. Ooops, I had already commented on this one apparently. Maybe I ought to get a life...? Nah, what for?
For the last time, transgender =/= gay. Not all gay boys want to be girls or indulge in effeminate things. Not all gay girls want to be rough and tumble and pretend to be boys.
If a young boy is telling you repeatedly that he wants to be or is a girl, he is transgender, not necessarily gay. They are NOT THE SAME THING.
Wow. None of those describe me, yet I still managed to "become" bisexual. Imagine that. Perhaps you should reevaluate your criteria.
On a side note, I hope this guy isn't actually a doctor. Herp de derp.
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