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5 million acres of farmland destroyed!

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I can hear the hooves beating of the 3rd rider!!!
Revelation 6:5-6 A days wages for a loaf of bread!

This is so close people! The first and 2nd rider have to appear before the 3rd rider, and the rapture happens before all this! [3 happy dancing emoticons in a row]

People will have to decide which to buy; food or gas!

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old comment by Papabear

"I can hear the hooves beating of the 3rd rider!!!
Revelation 6:5-6 A days wages for a loaf of bread!"

Why didn't you hear those "hoofbeats" in pre-WWII Germany?

"This is so close people! The first and 2nd rider have to appear before the 3rd rider,"

Great, maybe we can have a rodeo.

"and the rapture happens before all this! [3 happy dancing emoticons in a row]"

You do understand that your taking such glee in believing that an event will happen in which you believe most of humanity will be sent to eternal torture makes you a huge asshole, don't you?

"People will have to decide which to buy; food or gas!"

If you'd buy different food, perhaps you wouldn't have so much gas.

old comment by tracer

Well, let's see.

As of July 2007, the U.S. Federal minimum wage is $5.85 per hour. Some states have their own minimum wage laws which impose an even higher minimum wage, but let's say for the sake of argument that you don't live in one of those states.

At $5.85 per hour, an 8-hour work day would produce gross wages of $46.80. If we assume draconian tax withholding of 50% (including Social Security, Medicare, State Disability Insurance, Federal Income Tax Withholding, State Income Tax Withholding, etc.), that leaves you with $23.40 in net pay per day. (Realistically, at that income level, the amount of tax withholding would be substantially less than this. But let's assume a worst-case scenario.)

Right now, gasoline sells for around $4 per gallon. It's around $4.50/gal in California, but California is one of those states with a higher minimum wage law, so we can exclude them from this discussion. At $4/gal, $23.40 will buy you 5.85 gallons of gasoline. This is less than half the size of the gas tank for an average car, so Philbert McAdamia's claim of 2 days' wages for a tank of gas is about right.

Bread, of course, is another matter. Bread can be produced FAR more cheaply today than it could at the time Revelation was written. $3 per loaf is not at all unheard of.

You're predicting that the price of a loaf of bread will shoot up to $23.40 as a result of this farmland flooding? I think you overestimate the damage here....

old comment by tracer

GigaGuess wrote:

"Well, if people would start reducing their fuel consumption...boycotting when possible...they would be forced to lower their prices. This isn't divine signs, it's essentially corporate extortion. Ht 'em where it hurts, and then you'll see change."

It ain't the oil companies driving up gas prices here.
Nor is it the oil producers.
It's speculators.

At the current level of demand for petroleum products, the price of a barrel of crude oil should be about $70. However, the actual price we're seeing on the market is about twice this. What's happening? There is only one real explanation. Some people, somewhere, are stockpiling crude oil, or stockpiling trading interests in crude oil.

No vast conspiracy is needed to explain this. The real estate market started to collapse last year, so everybody who'd invested in real estate pulled out and started investing in other commodities -- like crude oil.

old comment by Allegory for Jesus

Something bad happens: "Look at that tragedy. Truly a sign of the end times. The end is nigh!"

Something good happens: "A miracle! A testament to the power of Jesus! His intercession is proof that there are dangerous times coming up ahead! The end is nigh!"

People are mean: "Look at all those filthy, immoral heathens everywhere! The end is nigh!"

People are too nice: "The world is too close to perfection, and is an affront to God's glory! The end is nigh!"

Things are expensive: "Our country's economy is going down the toilet! No other countries matter! The end is nigh!"

Things are cheap: "Our country is too prosperous. It is just the calm before the storm! The end is nigh!"

Apocalypse doesn't happen: "Jesus is just testing our faith. He'll be coming back any day now. The end is still nigh!"

Oh...the joy that is idiocy.

old comment by MaxW

And this is a point of celebration for you? The suffering of millions; starvation, poverty, and hardship for billions across the world. And, you're celebrating? For what? Your bullshit book tells you that you will be lifted into heaven?

Something is so wrong with these people. I try to understand that they're just misguided, poor souls that have been subject to an amount of brainwashing that a weak and malleable, if not vulnerable mind cannot withstand.

However, their celebration of misery, their embracing of chaos and conflict as a sign of some supernatural event...

What demarcates the people at RR from a doomsday cult, my friends? Nothing. They have a lot of members.

Fuck it, a cult's a cult.
If only the FBI would give them and theirs the Waco treatment.

I'll drink to that.

old comment by Grigadil

First, the farmland is not destroyed, just the current crop. Second, those 5 million acres are not the sum total of our agricultural base. Third, we can thank the government for its extravagantly apocalyptic economics that has put the majority of the people in a pinch (at the very least).

Take your imaginary cowboys and raiders of lost arks and assorted other bogeymen and march them up your ass in flank formation.

Competent and reasoned decisions by ethical and educated people can turn the recession around.

The flooding? Shit happens. Sorry about the disrupted lives, but shit happens. I have noticed the weather getting more extreme, but there seems to be a Real-Life reason why that is happening.

old comment by Antichrist

Lets take a look at this

First Horse - Peaceful rise to power. Hmmm.... The peace between WWI and WWII? When the US came to power? The League of Nation.

Second Horse - War. WWII?

Third Horse - Mentioned earlier, the insane inflation in Europe during the time

Fourth Horse - Death. Nazi Death Camps.

And since it was 144,000 Jewish male virgins that were getting raptured. I'd say that happened in the early 1940's. Who's going to notice 144,000 Jewish males dropping dead in concentration camps?

Sorry, you missed the rapture. We're in the 1000 years now.

Of course if you like I could make the same argument for the time of the black death.

old comment by Angua

And when he had opened the third seal, I heard the third beast say, Come and see. And I beheld, and lo a black horse; and he that sat on him had a pair of balances in his hand.

And I heard a voice in the midst of the four beasts say, A measure of wheat for a penny, and three measures of barley for a penny; and see thou hurt not the oil and the wine.
-- Rev 6:5-6 (KJV)

Well, um, I'm not a biblical scholar, but I don't think it says exactly what you're claiming it says (of course, I don't know what a days wages woud have constituted then.)

But hey, even if we don't get bread, at least there's still plenty of wine!

And I know that by oil, it probably meant olive oil, but since fundies redefine scripture to mean whatever they want, I don't see why I can't too. So I'm going to pretend that oil means petrolium. Well, people wouldn't exactly have to chose between oil and gas then, would they, since oil and wine are cheap. It's only grain that's expensive.

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@KiT and Kieranfoy

Yeah, I was thinking of Good Omens too. Since they seem to get such a big kick out of violence, you know, I have to wonder if they'd make of GBH paying a visit to some of the morons at Rapture Ready if he was so inclined to do so anyways . . . .

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