Since we know that God exists and that fact to be certain simply because without God we CAN’T KNOW ANYTHING, that is the very reason why we are on this blog trying to help Atheists realize this.
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Funny, I don't recall Jebus tutoring me at all, and I like to think I have a rather extensive knowledge base.
Although Ahura Mazda did help me cram for my chemistry final.
OK, I'm totally convinced now.
Actually, it seems that with God, fundies can't know anything.
"Since we know that God exists . . ."
Since your premise is incorrect, everything that follows is incorrect. This is the main reason you DON'T KNOW ANYTHING.
Try starting with 'Since we know Allah exists' or for more fun 'Since we know the flying spaghetti monster exists'.
"...we know that God exists..."
Well, then. That changes things quite a bit. You must be correct, and we shall have to take your word that you know what god wants and have been appointed to speak for him.
Once you demonstrate that god exists, of course. We'll be waiting for your evidence.
"Since we know that God exists and that fact to be certain simply because without God we CAN’T KNOW ANYTHING"
...thus, the reason why you're quoted here in the atheist FSTDT site, not helping your cause and being very trying, a simple question, as you are a fundie 'with God' who therefore knows EVERYTHING:
If you can guess what I'm holding in my hand, you can have a biscuit. >:D
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The smartarsery is strong in you.
Your first clause is incorrect, we have no way of knowing if God exists because belief God exists in the first place is based entirely on faith, therefore everything following that clause is also incorrect. Faith is a horrible way of figuring out what's real, but it's a great way of remaining wrong about everything forever.
We do not know tht God exists, any more than we know the Flying Spaghetti Monster exists. Besides, provable knowledge of God's existence abolishes faith.
The second part of your sentence is simply ludicrous. You can substitute and god or goddess for God and it makes as much sense.
We know things, therefore god exists?
You're going to need to come up with a MUCH better arguemnt than that bucko.
"Since we know that God exists and that fact to be certain simply because without God we CAN’T KNOW ANYTHING, that is the very reason why we are on this blog trying to help Atheists realize this."
Technically it was the snake (later to be made into Satan) that gave us knowledge. God wanted us dumb as a post so we'd be easier to manipulate, apparently.
Circular logic is circular, therefore logical.
Can a parrot know that Gawd exists?
Can a parrot know how to say, "Polly want a cracker?"
Did Gawd teach him that trick?
Okay. Bad example given how many of you nitwits like to repeat stupid exploded arguments ad nauseum.
Unlikely, and unfalsifiable.
I mean, if god exists, then it is possible we only know stuff because of him and that without him we know nothing.
How do we falsify this? We can't.
But, what I want to hear is the reasoning for why we can't know anything without god. Maaaaaybe then we can discuss testing this idea. But as of now, I don't see a reason for accepting this.
Also, at least this fellow is one of the people who see themselves as "helping" atheists and not "hating" them.
Since we know that God exists and that fact to be certain simply because without God we CAN’T KNOW ANYTHING
Since we know that the Easter Bunny exists and that fact to be certain simply because without the Easter Bunny we CAN’T HAVE ANY EASTER.
Since we know that unicorns exist and that fact to be certain simply because without unicorns we CAN’T HAVE ANY PURITY.
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"Since we know that God exists..."
Whoa! Back up the bus. We know no such thing. You may hope God exists, you desire it, you may even think God really does exist, but we don't know that. In fact, if we use the Bible as a credible source (I know, I know) it shows that the God of the Bible cannot exist.
"and that fact to be certain simply because without God we CAN’T KNOW ANYTHING,"
Uh, no.
"that is the very reason why we are on this blog trying to help Atheists realize this."
You have not even stated your case well, much less proved your point. All that I've come to realize from your post is that you're not so bright.
The Flying Spaghetti Monster exists, or we wouldn't have internet.
Thor lives or there would be no lightning.
Santa exists or there wouldn't be Christmas. Our parents just cover for him so we don't shake him down directly at the north pole when we get our driver's licenses.
We can do Algebra, therefore the Koran is absolute.
Your logic is flawed.
I do not believe you. Please provide some sort of credible evidence that a god, any god exists. Until you can do that, I do not believe a god exists.
Claims without evidence can be dismissed without evidence.
Besides, if your god is too impotent to convince me by itself that it exists, then what hope do you think you have of convincing me.
Since we know that God exists and that fact to be certain
So you shouldn't have any troubled providing scientifically verifiable proof of your "god". Anything else is simply nothing more than the same special pleading that theists have been doing for centuries.
simply because without God we CAN’T KNOW ANYTHING
So prove it.
that is the very reason why we are on this blog trying to help Atheists realize this.
Then you should realize that atheist are not going to be swayed by argument in which you simply assert someting to be a fact as if such an assertion will magically make it true, YOU HAVE TO PROVIDE ACTUAL EVIDENCE, something you have shown time and time again that you do not have.
I wish KST would come on this site and show us that God exists, I've been waiting so long for that exciting evidence. Although, there seems to be a puzzling anomaly to KST's statement, there's no sign of the existence of a God, yet I know that KST is a drooling moron, perhaps that knowledge is the sign.
KST=drooling moron, therefore God.
"Since we know that Santa Claus exists and that fact to be certain simply because without Santa we CAN'T RECEIVE ANY CHRISTMAS PRESENTS, that is the very reason why we are on this blog trying to help a-Santaists realize this."
See how that sounds, KST?
I tried praying. The world didn't become a better place.
Reason isn't the reason I am not religious. Philosophy is. Looking at the world, either god doesn't care, is evil, or is playing chess.
Or he might be good in the end. But I'm not going to put my faith in someone that powerful just yet.
Confused?
So were we! You can find all of this, and more, on Fundies Say the Darndest Things!
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