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By the way, why did the carp not evolve over a 200 million year period? If evolution is a reality where did it go with the carp? I guess that evolution just decided to take a break with the carp since he was rather tried from all that work with them other creatures. Does gravity take a break with some folks, I never heard of gravity failing to work, why did evolution fail to work with the carp if evolution is as solid a fact as is gravity?

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old comment by Giveitaday

By the way, why did the carp not evolve over a 200 million year period?

Who's saying it didn't? The modern carp is the result of millions of years of evolution.

If evolution is a reality where did it go with the carp?

It made it a carp.

I guess that evolution just decided to take a break with the carp since he was rather tried from all that work with them other creatures.

No one is saying that the carp didn't evolve. The carp is a prolific species that is well adapted to it's enviroment and therefore there are less natural selective pressures upon it. Evolution is not a "thing", it has neither motive nor goal, it has no awaresness, it is simply a description of a natural process.

Does gravity take a break with some folks, I never heard of gravity failing to work,

Then why are you the one claiming that evolution skipped over the carp? People with even the slightest understanding of evolutionary biology understand that you proposition is simply not true.

why did evolution fail to work with the carp if evolution is as solid a fact as is gravity?

Once again, it didn't "fail" to work, nor did it "try" to work. Those are concept that cannot appliy to evolutionary theory because they require evolution to have thought processes and defined goals that it works toward. That isn't evolutionary theory, that fundiespeak for "Hey, check out this new strawman I just kicked the shit out of. I'm so glad I know more about biological processes that people who have made it their life's work.".

Why don't you people at least educate yourself on the subject of evolutionary theory before you go around acting as if you are an authority on the subject. Watching fundies like yourself speak about evolution as if you know what it's about is like watching you open your mouth only to kick your own teeth in, and I must admit that is rather humourous.

old comment by Maguffin

When you mow the lawn, you pretty much stop once you've hit all of it; you probably do some fine-tuning and detail work, but as far as mowing goes, it's basically over. It's not that there'll never be more tall grass ever again, it's just that, for the time being, your lawn is exactly the way it needs to be to make you happy.
And when the tall grass comes back, you start to mow again, and the whole process starts over, and keeps going until once again things are as they need to be -- unless of course your lawn dies, or you move away, or you decide to scrap everything and start over with xeriscaping.

To keep with my crappy analogy, let's say that the carp has had all its grass mowed for a very long time now; it's right where it needs to be for optimum survival -- right there in the sweet spot as far as adaptation to environment/evolution goes. And apparently it did a damn good job on its "lawn" the first time around, because it hasn't had to do much since.

old comment by Horsefeathers

"By the way, why did the carp not evolve over a 200 million year period?"

Probably for the same reasons sharks, crocodiles and various other species haven't: they're supremely suited to their environment.

"If evolution is a reality where did it go with the carp?"

Judging by 200 million years of existence I'd say it went the best way possible.

"I guess that evolution just decided to take a break with the carp since he was rather tried from all that work with them other creatures."

Not quite, dim-wit. Carp, and everything else alive and reproducing, are still evolving--just very, very slowly. You know, like humans.

"Does gravity take a break with some folks, I never heard of gravity failing to work, why did evolution fail to work with the carp if evolution is as solid a fact as is gravity?"

Gravity is a universal constant (as far as we know). Evolution only acts "sometimes" like when a species reproduces. It's not something that's constantly happening to an individual of a specific species all the time. It is, however, happening constantly to the entire species as a whole.

old comment by Jezebel's Evil Sister

Rat of Steel: "Did you actually have a point to that, or did you simply post for the halibut?"

Oh, it gets even worse than that. I will share the following story with you, even though I'm sure to be pun-ished for it. Here goes:

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There were two prawns, one called Justin and the other called Christian. The prawns were constantly being harassed and threatened by sharks that inhabited the area. Finally one day, Justin said to Christian, "I'm fed up with being a prawn; I wish I was a shark, and then I wouldn't have any worries about being eaten."

A large mysterious cod appeared and said, "Your wish is granted" Lo and behold, Justin turned into a shark.

Horrified, Christian immediately swam away, afraid of being eaten by his old mate.

Time passed (as it does) and Justin found life as a shark boring and lonely. All his old mates simply swam away whenever he came close to them.

Then, one day, he saw the mysterious cod again and begged him to change him back into a prawn. And, lo and behold, it was so.

With tears of joy in his tiny little eyes, Justin swam back to his reef and knocked on Christian's door, shouting. "It's me, Justin, your old friend, come out and see me again."

Christian replied, "No way man, you'll eat me. You're a shark.”

"No, I'm not. That was the old me. I've changed," Justin shouted back. "I've found Cod. I'm a Prawn again, Christian."

old comment by Maguffin

Once there was a little fish with a heart of gold
(But not a goldfish).
Put in the water water with divine intent
Fillets of souls saved wherever he went.

His history is a little vague, His virgin mom laid a single egg.
When he was born, his mom was spooked
She said, "Bloop Bloop. Bloop Bloop."

Chorus:
Jesus Carp, Son of Cod
Spiritual icon for schools of scrod.
Jesus Carp, Son of Cod
Gets fish off the hook with a wink and a nod.

Cleansing all the fish of sin, they came from miles just to touch his fin.
He spoke so cool other fish would stare,
"I'm so pure I could swim in the air."

But Pontius Piranha had different plans, and sent the fish towards human hands.
The very next day while others looked,
Jesus Carp was placed on a hook.

[Chorus]

The fishermen reeled up their lines, And Jesus met his death divine.
But when he hit the Pearly Gates, St. Peter told him, "Sorry, Mate.
But you can't come in." And the Carp asked why.
St. Peter answered with a sigh,
"Cuz' God knows there's no smellier dish
Than a three-days-dead Messianic Fish."

[CHORUS]

-- The Evolution Control Committee

(I think I may have goofed on the lyrics a little. Sorry)

Saul25 #fundie thendtimes.com

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