Jaibo #fundie discussion.theguardian.com

I can only speak from a gay man's experience. But in the case of HIV, I don't think there's any blame or victims when the sex is consensual; for example, I would suspect that the vast majority of gay men in London know that "10% of gay men in London have HIV". This doesn't stop a considerable percentage of the remainder having unprotected, casual sex. But guess what, a number of them I have heard speak or post on message boards think the responsibility for transmission is entirely with the 10% who are infected. What one would find is that transmissions are usually by people who don't know they are infected, and don't want to know, for the reasons I have outlined above.

It is as pointless to blame the person who transmits HIV as it is to blame the cake-shop counter staff for diabetes.

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