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[What do punishments do you think that women who abort should get? If it were up to you what punishments would you give them?]

This assumes I would put the legal burden solely on the mother. In the hypothetical scenario in which I was in the position to decide punishments for abortion, the mother (and father, if he was a party to it) would face fines, but the person who willingly and knowingly performed the procedure would face fines, felony prison time, and the revocation of any active medical licenses. They are both the enablers and the active party in abortion, and the greater share of legal and moral responsibility rests on their shoulders.

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[Also, there are thousands of women out there who don't regret getting an abortion at all. Why are you ignoring them and pretending they don't exist? Also, do you know what one of the main factors is in whether or not a woman regrets getting an abortion? Whether or not the people around her are supportive of her decision. So why not be supportive of a woman's choice to get an abortion, so that she doesn't end up feeling bad about what she did?]

Ignoring them? I’m pretty sure I addressed exactly what my position was on women who unrepentantly abort their children. To put it bluntly, I want women who Abort to feel guilty, just as much as I would want any murderer to express a modicum of regret over their actions. I want to comfort them in their guilt, explain to them that there is still forgiveness for the act, and help them to realize they need not ever repeat it. Just because I have compassion for them and understand why they feel it’s necessary does not mean I condone or support the act, especially when alternatives are readily available. I cannot and will never support the decision to needlessly terminate an unborn child. Period. End of story. I will not be supportive of that decision, because it is antithetical to the preservation of human life! I want both the mother and the child to live! I want them all to live! I thought I made that explicitly clear! I hold them both to be of equal value. I implicitly covered all of this in my previous set of answers.

But that’s the difference between you an me, apparently. I want everyone involved to live, you’re perfectly fine with half of them dying.

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here you are. There you are! I knew it, I just knew one of you morally bankrupt Eugenics apologists would swim on by. And proving my point in a spectacular fashion, I might add, being so blind that you deny the very thing you support.

Let me tell you something that will likely go in one ear and out the other: Abortion is not a basic human right. I don’t know where you people pull that out of. Maybe it’s comes out of the asses your heads tend to be shoved inside. A fetus, an unborn human, is not part of the mother’s body. It is a separate human, with a unique set of DNA, a unique fingerprint, and a unique appearance. Yes, she is dependent on her mother for survival, just as any child is dependent on an adult for the same. For what is a womb but a place where the growing child gets food and shelter, just like a born child is dependent on his parents for the same. The only difference, the only difference, is time. Would you justify killing a toddler because he’s dependent on his parents for survival? By following your logic, you would. But then again, logical consistency was never the strong suit of the Pro-Choice movement.

Time does not matter when it comes to life. What right have you to kill a child because it is still developing? What right have you to declare that dependence on another is grounds upon which to kill someone? Unborn fucking birds get more goddamn protection from wanton killing than our own unborn children. Even nature shows us the value of the unborn for fucks sake!

And what twisted logic drives you to the conclusion that protecting an innocent life, even a “potential” one (if you want to be stubborn about the term), somehow gives a woman fewer rights than a corpse? Can you even read what you’re typing? A woman can’t terminate her child, so suddenly she’s worse off than dead people?? What the hell kind of logic is that? I’ll tell you what it is, It’s emotionally-contrived drivel. A false and pretentious non sequitur used to justify the murder of children by the thousands.

And congratulations for not reading my post. I never directly compared Abortion to the Holocaust, though perhaps the parallel isn’t that far fetched. I did, however, compare Eugenics to the Holocaust. You’re here, defending women who have murdered their unborn children for genetic reasons, which is the EXACT definition of Eugenics. Clearly, the fact that you’re here debating this tells me you embrace the logic that leads to it. Abortion for most other reasons is flat out murder, but justifying it on the basis of genetics takes to straight into Eugenics. The Holocaust was justified under the same Eugenic propaganda. Namely: This group or that group is genetically inferior and therefore less than human. Ergo, their legal rights are slim/non-existant.

Your last paragraph is the fucking linchpin. Magically, after 24-weeks, suddenly the “mass of tissue” is a person. Can you pinpoint for me the exact magical thing that one one-hundreth of a second prior to the 24th week disqualified it as a living being? As being alive? As having the basic human right to live? That’s a real basic human right for you. LIFE. And nothing trumps the right to life.

If it contains human DNA, it is a human, and therefore inherits the inalienable right to life from the moment that new set of DNA is formed. Mothers should take role models from nature, as every single species that I’m aware of goes to some lengths to preserve the life of their unborn. Even fucking ants do all they can to secure the safety of their fertilized eggs. What kind of twisted, evil creatures are you that you can’t even match the moral integrity of a fucking insect!?

You. Disgust. Me. You attempt to defend the undefendable twice over in your little post, while simultaneously denying the fact that you’re openly supporting the single most arrogant and destructive chain of logic ever created by mankind; that one group of humans is superior to another by virtue of uncontrollable circumstances.

Fuck you and your fascist, eugenic, murderous bullshit! I’m done with you. Go sit in a corner and contemplate how an ant is a better example of morality than you.