I disciplin my wife and children if it when it needs doing like our Bible says. Beating from domestic violence is not the same because I know how to use it right some poeple dont use it right. My daddy did it to my mom my sons will do it in their houses but it means wives or girls can say that it was to rough and a husband living in God will stop before carring it to far. Dont talk about it like you know how we use it.