[Current results of a Teens-4-Christ poll. The first number is the amount of people who voted for that option, the second is the percentage of the total voters who voted for that option. Emphasis is added.]
Before you are married, is it ok to...
Hold hands: 9, 10.00%
Hug: 9, 10.00%
Cuddle: 2, 2.22%
Kiss: 11, 12.22%
Passionate Kiss: 8, 8.89%
More: 11, 12.22%
None 40, 44.44%
Total Votes: 90
75 comments
I'm honestly not sure what's more startling: that nearly half the respondents are so prudish that they wouldn't even hold hands before marriage (the wedding night must be hysterical!), or that eleven Brainwashed-4-Christ members actually voted "more". Though I have to wonder if that's just a sign eleven people have signed up to troll the place ...
Hey, I look at this as a win for the reasonable side! Bro. Randy's official position, one that he holds forth on frequently, is that there is to be no physical contact of any kind whatsoever between 2 people of opposite genders before marriage. None at all, not even a hug of a kiss on the cheek, because that will lead to "lusting for more contact."
I find it very encouraging that less than half of the people on T4C agree with him. He must be absolutely stewing in his juices over there. I expect this "poll" to be "edited" pretty damn quickly to change those numbers. He has already demonstrated that he is willing to edit material on his website to keep it in line with his official doctrine.
Excellent point, Axver. The wedding nights for these poor deluded schmucks must be freakin' hysterical. Hell, the wedding kiss must be pretty memorable for all the wrong reasons, too. And the first dance at the reception, and posing for pictures.... all the stuff that normal married couples do that involve (*gasp!*) touching. That's going to be one hell of an awkward day for these duped kids.
Actually, they'll probably be like my own holier-than-thou sister and not even have sex at all on the wedding night. What a waste of a wedding.
Axver wrote:
Though I have to wonder if that's just a sign eleven people have signed up to troll the place ...
It's actually very difficult to troll TFC: you need a level of trolling dedication almost on a par with Carico's. As far as I can tell the admins vet everything new members post, and if it isn't either lickspittle toadyism or just plain batshit insane it never makes it onto the site.
There's going to be a lot of incompatible and frustrated married Christian couples in the near future.
In a way, I almost feel sorry for them. Until I realize it's not my fault their marriages will be cold, loveless affairs.
And since wanking isn't allowed either, we have some seriously frustrated teens on our hands here.
(Actually, I didn't have sex on my wedding night, either. I was too damn tired).
Thanks Arkady, (blowing you a kiss through the screen)! A wise old nurse once told me, "After someone dies you always regret the hugs you didn't give them, never the ones that you did." Some of these children are going to have awfully interesting wedding nights! PS Many fundie girls, after all the browbeating, threats of hell, and sexual repression, become nymphomaniacs after the loss of their virginity. They figure they are damned anyway, so they go for the "gusto" and become quite promiscuous.
Actually, they'll probably be like my own holier-than-thou sister and not even have sex at all on the wedding night. What a waste of a wedding.
Actually, when you think about it the wedding night isn't the best night for sex. You've probably both been running around all day, on your feet for the past 6 hours, and dead tired. The typical bride will have 4 to 6 dozen bobby pins in her hair. I say rent the bridal suite for an extra night, get some sleep, and devote the next day to it. :)
Let's just hope this was a result of peer pressure, rather than actual belief. It was already noted that the 11 people who think a titty-fuck is cool in the eyes of the lord (and why shouldn't it be?) got banned, so who knows who actually lives by this crap.
Before you are married, what you'll actually do ...
Hold hands: 40, 100.00%
Hug: 40, 100.00%
Cuddle: 40, 100.00%
Kiss: 40, 100.00%
Passionate Kiss: 39, 97.50%
More: 36, 90.00%
None 0, 0.00%
Total Votes: 90"
Actually, when you think about it the wedding night isn't the best night for sex. You've probably both been running around all day, on your feet for the past 6 hours, and dead tired. The typical bride will have 4 to 6 dozen bobby pins in her hair. I say rent the bridal suite for an extra night, get some sleep, and devote the next day to it. :)
For those who didn't imagine the wedding night as a magical night of spiritual lovemaking, that's sound advice. For those who wait until their wedding night due to a religious superiority complex (like my sister) it seems like a waste not to seal the deal on the wedding night. After all, I've never seen a doe-eyed virgin claim she's waiting for the fourth night of marriage before she has sex.
Speaking of my sister, she didn't have the long, exhausting wedding day. She eloped. They didn't have sex on their wedding night simply because she didn't want to. Because in her mind, sex was dirty and wrong.
My wedding day was exhausting. My maid of honor succeeded in getting me ridiculously drunk the night before, and I woke up around 6:30 am with a slight hangover. After all the stresses of that long day, and dozens of pins in my hair, we dragged ourselves to our hotel room. But, we were determined to consumate our marriage ASAP, so we did.
An extra day in the bridal suite is definitely a good idea, though. ;)
"[QUOTE(Godzgal @ Dec 9 2005, 03:12 PM)
I think that I will probaby kiss when we get engaged. Nothing more Nothing less until then and that is as far as we will go.]
"Can anyone explain why, during the wedding ceremony, the preacher says, "You may now kiss the bride?" "
- Brother Randy. Oh God, shut up already.
Yeah, I can explain why. Because "You may now kiss the bride" marks the end of the ceremony, and the kiss seals the deal. It sure as shit doesn't mean "You may now kiss the bride for the first time in your sad, pathetic life."
:shakes head:
I hug my straight, gay, Christian and atheist friends all the time!
In fact, I hug just about *everybody* -- and I'd say 4/5 of them get kisses (on the cheek, guys -- I may be gay, but I'm not into freaking out straight guys)!
There isn't a single person here I wouldn't be honored to have for a friend.
In fact, I think I'm going to go ahead and hug everybody here!
{{{{{{{{{{fstdt members}}}}}}}}}}
(and kisses for anyone who wants one...)
They're probably going to wonder what is that thing in each other's pants have to call their parents.
then they'll wonder which hole.
After entering the hole, they'll either think their done, or think a demon possessed them as they orgasm for the first time
My denomination's tenets state that before *, any physical contact other than ** is morally acceptable.
* refers to: marriage for couples residing in areas where they are allowed marriage; "marriage in all but name" plus whatever level of legal recognition is available for couples residing in other areas.
** refers to: contact between the *** of one person and any part of another person.
*** refers to: the genitals or hindquarters of a man or the genitals, hindquarters, or breasts of a woman.
There is no moral difference between homo- and heterosexual couples.
<<Yeah, but the poll would be dramatically different if "Menage a Trois" was an option. I mean, you know how fundies are with their trinities.>>
You owe me a new keyboard.
Oh, and my spell-checker didn't recognise "fundies" as a word, and one of the corrections it offered was "fun dies"!
Absolutely right, you can't do any of that stuff before marrage.
The only thing that might be acceptable is for the boy to do a girl in the butt. That way, she remains pure, but the boy gets a little relief so he won't be tempted by homosexual thoughts.
That's how I heard some people say it anyway.
Let's see... never had sex... never had a passionate kiss... never even kissed (shyness, not repression)... hugging...
I hugged many women...
OH NOEZ! MY SOUL IS DOOMED!
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