They may have left out God from the Constitution, but they did not leave out Jesus, the son of God. So I think they pretty well acknowledged there is a God, father of Jesus Christ.
Now if you haven’t figured out where Jesus is mentioned in the Constitution - and in the Declaration of Independence too - just look at the bottom where they signed it:
In the year of our Lord—.L - capitalized, meaning Jesus Christ.
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Yes, it means that it uses the calendar starting from the alleged birth of Jesus Christ, Anno Domini , A.D.
It's not a statement of support, its just formal language.
Or it could just be a translation of "Anno Domini," which is what A.D. means.
We should all go back to dating ab urbe condita (A.U.C., from the founding of the city - the city of Rome) or from the first Greek Olympiad nearly three thousand years ago. At least it would save us this bullshit.
Jesus was born circa 5 or 6, AD or BC, I forget which.
So the real question is, who is the Lord we're all worshipping and why did Jesus steal everything from him?
The very fact that we use the gregorian calendar is another reason I hate this stupid world.
Fuckin' Ctahlic Church and their widespread influence.
Do these crazy fundies know that the Gregorian Calandar was invented by one of them "un-Christian" Catholics?
Yes. From that capitalised 'L' can be inferred that the writers of the constitution meant for Christianity to be the state religion.
In a similar way, I can infer from your capitalisation of the 'C' in constitution that you enjoy it when your wife dons a strap-on, and also that you hate bacon.
Hrm. Seems to me that "lord" is a title, not a name.
Kinda like "christ" and "god".
Try reading the rest of the Constitution, and then show me where it specifies christianity as the state religion, or the source of anything in the document.
Then go look at the pagan civilizations that existed in Germanic and Norse areas of Europe (including England, which might have a lot to do with it) and the pre-empire Roman and Greek regions.
Once you have done this, let me know which civilizations influnced the Constitution more. The pagans, or the christians?
(As for the Decleration of Independance, it has no standing in the law of the United States. It was a specific list of issues the rebels had with the empire.)
In the year of our Lord
.L - capitalized, meaning Jesus Christ.
Yeah....see, "the year of our Lord" is the English translation of the Latin initials A.D.--Anno Domini. How do you find time to post in a forum when you're so occupied with grasping at straws?
When I scream "Jesus F***ing Christ!!" in anger does that indicate a belief in the Son of a bitch! God on my part?
The signers we Deists, not Christians. Lord means God, not Jesus you nitwit. The "Year of our Lord" is the longhand version of A.D.
But being an uneducated fundie, you wouldn't have learned that.
Chances are that the only reason they used that arbitrary point is because we they can't be bothered to 1. make up a new point to start from, 2. mess around changing every f***ing date in the whole of the history of the world. Also they probably used that point so that everyone else could understand them, so there wouldn't be any problems with trading e.g. telling someone working in AD timescale that they want goods by 20,000,000 AX (after Xenu). Also, the fact that we they this AD timescale doesn't mean that America isn't a Christian country, just as the fact that we use Thursday and Friday (whose names come from the Norse gods Thor and Freya) doesn't mean that everyone worships Odin and the rest of the Norse pantheon.
Right. That's it. Just to piss off the fundies, we're switching to Unix Epoch.
Yours sincerely,
Boomtime, Confusion the 6th 3174
The U.S. Constitution was adopted by the Constitutional Congress on September, 17, 1787 - a Monday. Thus, the deity embodied in that document is just as likely to be the Moon Goddess.
Textbook example of argument #331 on the list
331. ARGUMENT FROM WHAT YEAR IT IS
We should date everything to...
1969 c.e. / 1 a.t. - Start of Terragen Calender - "Old Reckoning"
The Preterragen Era:
For three billion years, xenosophont civilizations had evolved, flowered briefly and gloriously, and then disappeared. No-one knows why, but myths and theories abound, and many wonder whether a similar fate doesn't await Terragen Civilization.
Hominids appeared on Old Earth some five million years ago, but remained insignificant until the development of agricultural and urban civilization some five thousand years before the rise of ai. A rapid technological increase
Western based scientific/industrial/capitalistic/Info-rich civilization conquers the world and after some delay leads to the colonisation and development of the Solar System. Sentient and transapient ai, advanced gengineering, the ai wars, and mature nanotech all emerge. Then comes the disaster of the nanoswarms and the fall of civilization. Meanwhile, ahuman ai fleeing the solar system lay claim to the stars. But often even their "diamond belt" solidstate civilizations are shortlived.
http://www.orionsarm.com/main.html
It's funny how ...
"L"
"As the Government of the United States of America is not, in any sense, founded on the Christian religion; as it has in itself no character of enmity against the laws, religion, or tranquillity, of Mussulmen; and, as the said States never entered into any war, or act of hostility against any Mahometan nation, it is declared by the parties, that no pretext arising from religious opinions, shall ever produce an interruption of the harmony existing between the two countries."
... Is just a bit too vague.
A more cynical person might suggest there's a little bias here.
Let us not forget that it was common practice in the 18th century to capitalize the initial letters of most nouns. Modern German capitalises the initial letter of every noun.
Die Americanische Leute = the American people
Ich werde Brot mit Butter essen - I will eat bread and Butter.
Meine Mutter ist eine gute Dame - My mother is a good lady.
In a similar way, it would havebeen quite natural to capitalise the L in lord back then.
"They may have left out God from the Constitution, but they did not leave out Jesus, the son of God. So I think they pretty well acknowledged there is a God, father of Jesus Christ."
Really? That's odd, I don't see his name mentioned anywhere.
"Now if you haven’t figured out where Jesus is mentioned in the Constitution - and in the Declaration of Independence too - just look at the bottom where they signed it:
In the year of our Lord
.L - capitalized, meaning Jesus Christ."
How do you know they weren't talking about Lord Vishnu?
L - capitalized, meaning Jesus Christ.
Confused?
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