@ConservativeCommunist
"when a christian calls atheism stupid or what not."
Oh, if only. Fundies appearing here and actually doing so are as rare as Invisible Pink Unicorn droppings. And the very few who actually do deign to show up here, if anything I welcome the opportunity to unsheath my verbal blades and tear them a new one, logically (if they had the cojones to - as their fundie bum-chum Andy Schaftafly would say - 'Open their minds', and look beyond their own rigid, unbending, one-dimensional dogmatic thinking. PROTIP: Science - specifically Cosmology - proves the existence of at least 11 Dimensions).
Speaking of cojones, those on Ruptured Retards - especially the admins Buzzardnuts & Mr(Wo)Mannn - clearly have none. Or else, they would appear here on a regular basis, to (try and) argue the toss. Better still, have the cojones to actually allow those with a completely differing viewpoint (Left-wingers, Atheists, Agnostics, 'Liberals', Pro-Choicers, non-fundie Christians - such as the good peeps here in FSTDT - and generally anyone not exactly like them) to join Ruptured Retards. The ball's in their court.
Oh, and 'Christians calling Atheism stupid or whatnot'? Like I say, We welcome them saying so here. For it gives us not only the opportunity for us to prove them otherwise, via the use of evidence - facts, by them saying so (and continued claim of our 'stupidity'), do they provide us with even more material to use against them; ergo the title - and the raison d'etre - of this site:
'Fundies Say The Darndest Things'.
After all, they have all the opportunities in the world to create their own equivalent of FSTDT (again, it would give us in FSTDT even more material to rip the piss out of); say, for example, something with the title... 'Atheists Say The Weirdest Crap'. Oh yes, that's right. Someone already did:
http://www.freewebs.com/astdt/index.htm
My, just look at what a success that turned out to be, eh?! Just three quotes. And... that's it. And most of the comments there were by Atheists. We at FSTDT were hoping it's creator could at least make a go of it; even the merest fraction of the traffic FSTDT gets would've been great. And why? Because it would provide us with more lulzworthy quotes to rip the piss out of, and generally logically annihilate.
http://www.fstdt.net/QuoteComment.aspx?QID=35299&Page=1
(I refer you to the comment by Canadiest, on page 4)
But no. All of three quotes to date - probably because, unlike fundie thinking, Atheist logic stands up to scrutiny, due to it being based on Evidence. Facts. The sorts of things impossible to dispute, even for fundies. One word sums up 'Atheists Say The Weirdest Crap': FAIL. Kinda sums up fundies, really. As well as everything they say, do, and think. Especially the say part of that equation.
Ergo, 'Fundies Say The Darndest Things'. QED.
After all, if they don't want what they say to have the piss ripped out of such - based on what they think - then there's a simple solution:
Stop thinking like a fundie, therefore you won't say what you do, thus have what you say (and therefore think) criticised. As the old saying goes...:
'It is better to be thought of a fool and remain silent, than to open your mouth and remove all doubt.'
Two words: Sarah Failin.
And as I say: 'Opinions are like arses. Everyone has one, but not everyone wants to air theirs in public. They certainly don't want yours shoved in their faces.
Two words: Rush Limbaugh.
A challenge, ConservativeCommunist: look through the entirety of FSTDT's quote archives. Find for me just one quote by a Quaker, Unitarian Universalist, Amish/Mennonite, Buddhist, or Sufi Muslim. Then you do the maths. A clue for free:
If all other religions were like the Quakers, Unitarian Universalists, Amish/Mennonites, Buddhists and Sufi Muslims - in thought, action, and word - then FSTDT would cease to exist, as material would dry up. Then we'd get on with the rest of our lives, in a peaceful world. A tolerant world. A fundie-free world.
'Nothing to kill or die for
And no religion too'
-John Lennon, "Imagine"
PROTIP: there are Christians amongst the commenters here in FSTDT. Just not the fundie type, that's all. And more power to them, says I. They're not raving, rabid, right-wingnuts. So would it kill the Repubican, Religious Right, Teabagger, Neocunt, Redneck etc types to be left-wing? It wouldn't kill them. Aforementioned non-fundie Christian commenters here in FSTDT are still alive, still being non-right-wing.
I love being a Left-wing Atheist. Why? Just look at the alternative: Two words: Sarah Failin.
No thanks. Which is why I say no to everything the Religious Right represent: everything they say, do and think (all of which, by all normal, sane, decent, human, civilised, logical standards, can never be justified). Ergo, the existence of - and what we do in - FSTDT. QED.
As stated above, fundies know the alternative to having what they say, do and think justifiably criticised: never say, do or think anything - certainly unjustifiable - that would warrant criticism in the first place.
Quakers. Unitarian Universalists. Amish/Mennonites. Buddhists. Sufi Muslims. Keep themselves to themselves. Never proseltyse. Don't insinuate themselves into politics to enforce their own 'morality' on everyone else. Don't bother anyone, they're not bothered by anyone. Hyper-tolerant.
Fundies, take note.
It doesn't kill them to not be like you fundies, so would it kill you fundies to be exactly like them?
"i just think its ironic that Atheists, who have been villified for a long time go out and do the exact same "childish" name calling and insults as the people who villify them. Thats all."
Last time I heard, there wasn't a campaign centuries ago, to make Catholics recant their faith, on pain of death - by Atheists. Yet, Torquemada & co. did exactly that to others who believed differently - or in some cases - not - to others (i.e. Jews). When Christians have been the victims of pogroms, holocausts, ghettoisation, forced into concentration/FEMA camps, turned into social pariahs (i.e. McCarthy's witchhunts), and generally looked down upon for thousands of years, then - and only then - can they claim to be villified, nay, 'Persecuted'. The way fundamentalist Christianity has behaved (certainly in the 21st Century, especially in the US) is infinitely worse than 'childish', wouldn't you say? And calling fundies out on everything they say, do and think (via our logically annihilating such), which by definition of said fundies' own insanity, (which in itself is childish) is unjustifiable, certainly isn't 'childish'; 'Ironic'?!
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At the other extreme (and to reiterate)...:
Quakers. Unitarian Universalists. Amish/Mennonites. Buddhists. Sufi Muslims. Keep themselves to themselves. Never proseltyse. Don't insinuate themselves into politics to enforce their own 'morality' on everyone else. Don't bother anyone, they're not bothered by anyone. Hyper-tolerant.
Fundies, take note.
...oh, and we Atheists being 'childish'?:
'The only way to combat ridiculous propositions is through mockery'
-Thomas Jefferson
If he were alive today, Thomas Jefferson would be a commenter in FSTDT. Everything fundies do, think - and above all, say - are the most ridiculous propositions imaginable, thus he - as we do in FSTDT - would mock them.
Would you call one of the US's Founding Fathers - and framers of the US Constitution - 'childish'?
(emphasis added):
'For happily the Government of the United States, which gives to bigotry no sanction, to persecution no assistance, requires only that they who live under its protection should demean themselves as good citizens, in giving it on all occasions their effectual support.'
-George Washington
Everything fundies today say, do, and think is nothing but bigotry and persecution (against LGBT people, women wanting abortions, 'Liberals', and generally everyone not exactly like them). After all...:
'The Puritans didn't leave England to escape persecution, but to find a country in which they could freely persecute others'
-Gore Vidal
'Religious bondage shackles and debilitates the mind and unfits it for every noble enterprise, every expanded prospect'
'In no instance have... the churches been guardians of the liberties of the people'
-James Madison
And furthermore...:
'I do not find in orthodox Christianity one redeeming feature'
'There is more need for lighthouses in our country than churches.'
'But it does me no injury for my neighbour to say there are twenty gods or no God. It neither picks my pocket nor breaks my leg.'
'Question with boldness even the existence of a God; because, if there be one, he must more approve of the homage of reason, than that of blind-folded fear'
-Thomas Jefferson
Here endeth the lesson.
