Evolutionary biologists did not design my smartphone! And astrophysicists did not design the car that I drive! Those are designed by engineers! Okay? Not “scientists.”
Now there are some scientists that have made legitimate discoveries and things, but guess what they weren’t? Evolutionary biologists. Guess what they weren’t? Astrophysicists. Because those people are just philosophizing about the origins of the species.
Hey! Here’s the origin right here. [Holds up Bible.] It’s called Genesis 1:1.
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What about Genesis 2? You've got two different origin versions in the same freaking book! And you have the nerve to complain if biologists disagree in different books?
Would you want to drive a car designed by an engineer who only read one book written 20 years ago?
<Now there are some scientists that have made legitimate discoveries and things, but guess what they weren’t? Evolutionary biologists.>
I'm sure they've contributed greatly to the field of medicine. Specifically, antibiotics.
Astrophysicists are philosophizing about the origins of species? Maybe as a hobby, in their spare time.
ETA: Modern car engines are not possible without deep knowledge of how materials work on the molecular and atomic level. And they need modern computer systems made only possible by an understanding of quantum physics. All this knowledge that those engineers needed to design your car came from physicists. And if you’re about to say “But not from astrophysicists!”, think about how the GPS in your car works first
#1: Engineers are scientists.
#2: Learn what a scientist actually is before you talk about them.
#3: As other posters have pointed out, the Bible has multiple origin stories. If the book itself can't agree on the facts, why should anyone believe that it's statements are actually facts?
And your gardener did not dress your hair either. As for your origin story,while we are on poetics, I prefer the Edda. Just as much proof behind it as your book, too.
"Now there are some scientists that have made legitimate discoveries and things, but guess what they weren’t? ... Astrophysicists."
And yet, due to the efforts of astrophysicists (among others), twelve men have walked on the moon . Your bible has nothing on that.
In addition, the same physics that make stars burn, planets orbit, and galaxies spin? Also applies to your car.
As far as I know, engineering is basically applied science, and that science is from the theoretical scientists who discovered said phenomena. Without the scientists, there would be no engineers.
No, smartphones have nothing to do with biology.
Cars have nothing to do with astrophysics.
Science, technology, engineering and math are all "related" and intertwined.
Astrophysics didn't design vaccines, they didn't discover DNA, they didn't come up with easier, safer and better surgery procedures.
Evolutionary biologists don't philosophy about the origin of species, they research adaptation to the environment through random mutations and natural selection.
What did Genesis 2 do to be excluded? There's origin there too, ya know.
If you don't think that engineers need to have a very solid grasp of the basic sciences and the scientific method, then you clearly have never met one.
I never would've passed my electronics courses had I not gone down to the chemical properties of the components involved.
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It's funny that the further you get away from the Abrahamic sphere, you'll find that there are less and less people who take their mythology literally and instead take them as stories about the gods.
Not to say there aren't significant exceptions, of course.
Those are designed by engineers! Okay? Not “scientists.”
So what you're saying is God is a technologist? It might help, though, if you knew what 'science,' 'evolutionary biology,' and 'astrophysics' were.
"Hey! Here’s the origin right here. [Holds up Bible.] It’s called Genesis 1:1."
Did God put pen to paper/fingers to keyboard, proofread the manuscript/Word documents (Lol, 'Omniscience '), then send such to the printworks to have bound & distributed to the vendors with the words on the cover 'Written by God ' on the cover...? NEXT !
Good, since you deny evolution, we can give you the same old antibiotics we were using 50 years ago? Bacteria don't evolve, right? So you don't need updated antibiotics, right?
What that? The old antibiotics aren't working? Sorry, that's all you get. They worked perfectly fine 50 years ago. You must be really sinful. Better pray some more. We keep the latest antibiotics only for those that accept evolution.
"Evolutionary biologists did not design my smartphone! And astrophysicists did not design the car that I drive!"
And they don't fucking claim to either. You're the one who thinks "evolution" is every science and somehow come to the conclusion that that means objects which were clearly designed by human beings - complete with the original blueprints still existing in a factory or vault somewhere, hell you can probably still fucking meet the people who designed a ton of things that were made from the 60s onward - are believed by satanists godless heathens non-Christians to have magically created themselves, infinitely duplicated themselves, set up contracts for payment with businesses that sell them by themselves, and advertised themselves.
"Hey! Here’s the origin right here. [Holds up Bible.] It’s called Genesis 1:1."
Case in point. You call out scientific documents for being written by fallible mortals, but the Bible is somehow exempt despite also being written by fallible mortals. It didn't write itself, translate itself into multiple languages, translate itself into those same multiple languages again a bunch of other times, infinitely duplicate itself and ask permission to stay in churches and households all around the world and take up space while people try to act how it says to while either refusing to actually fucking read it or blocking out the parts that actually make it sound appealing. And I know if you were to read this you'd say God inspired it, which is also complete bullshit because if He did then it wouldn't be a contradictory mess that has to tell the same story up to four times in a row.
Because physicists, chemists, and materials scientists totally didn't help to make your car and smart phone.
Evolutionary biologists made discoveries that led to vaccines. Astrophysicists will try to find the best, most efficient way to colonise other planets (if possible) when everything turns to shit from environmental devastation.
But I bet you think that vaccines cause autism and global warming is a myth.
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