There will always be a minority of women who dislike being mothers. They are freaks of nature. They are not necessarily to be blamed for their lack of maternal feelings. But they are to be blamed for celebrating abnormality. Rizzuto, like her feminist sisters, complains that society has standards for mothers at all.
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fuck you, lady, fuuuuuuuck youuuuuuuu
Yes, those women with no desire to raise children should suck it up, bark out a brood, and raise a thoroughly unhappy family, and personal life. Shame on them for not wanting to subject children to a miserable home. Shame!
Women who do not wish to be mothers should not get pregnant. It is that simple. No pregnancy, no babies.
Motherhood should be reserved for those women who WANT children.
David F Mayer
Lookit, Laura The NonThinking Housewife, I don't hate mothers & I don't hate children. My sister has a 4 yr old girl & while she can be quite a rambunctous load of noodles, she's precious & I adore her.
That said, I could NEVER be a mother! In fact, I'm thinking of getting myself "fixed" sometime. I am NOT emotionally prepared & would be awful at it. I can be a great aunt & have loads of funzies with the kid but 24-7 Mom-Lady, no. I don't hate Moms, I don't hate kids but I'm not a freak for not wanting to be something I am unprepared to do.
A person with only a High School diploma is ill suited to be a Neurosurgeon.
The Chef & Neurosurgeon wannabees may go to college & remedy this but the last person will have to talk using a gizmo that makes him sound like Mr. Roboto for life.
Possessing lady-parts does not automatically guarantee a super maternal instinct nor does it guarantee you'll be all that as a parent.
The planet's got too many people & many parents shouldn't even be parents. So please kindly shut yer trap, dear Laura & please quit being a meatball. Thank you.
@HoverSponge
Oh, I would actually love to read it, if you mind.
@Laura: I dread to think I share namesake with you. If I'm a freak for not wanting to pass my genes, which is riddled with far too many genetic disorders to count, or to take in a child only to give it a miserable life because I difficulty caring for myself sometimes, than so be it.
Note that minority = freaks.
Oops! I meant Thamex.
Laura, the thinking housewife, just not the very deeply thinking housewife. And why would a woman want to have children during what could possibly be an upcoming theocracy of unremitting evil? You wouldn't want to be a mother in the fictional hell of drooling fantasy fame, and you certainly wouldn't want to be a mother on a planet inhabited by slavering tribes of gun-toting theozombies.
Ahem, I'll thank you to not insult one of the best teachers I've ever met. In fact, I worked with her for a full year. Fuck having her own kids, the students ARE her kids, for the few hours that she has them in her room five days a week. And you know what? She's one of the best-loved teachers. Whatever the reason she has none of her own children, it means very little in the face of what she does every day.
Shove it up your ass super hard and with broken glass, Laura.
@Spuki
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It has been quite proved that people (well, chimpazees and gorillas) don't have maternal feelings. If they don't "train" they are invariably bad mothers. All this maternal feelings is just an invention. Also, this planet is already overpopulated, we don't need more kids. So shut up.
> There will always be a minority of women who dislike being mothers. They are freaks of nature.
Pray tell, am I a "freak of nature" too, for not desiring to pursue any kind of physical relationship at the moment? Am I personally responsible for potentially making women into "freaks of nature", because I'm not helping them to get married by choosing not to marry anyone?
If not, why is it okay for men to get away with this heinous independence, and not women?
I will never be a father (save for maybe adopting if I am very stable) and if I was a woman I would never be a mother.
Fuck children. They are little annoying assholes. I hate being around children so I could never raise one. The world is overpopulated so why should I overpopulate it even further doing something I won't enjoy.
Also women who dislike being mothers are not "freaks of nature," they are simply women who weren't brainwashed to be insane like you.
I wouldn't have any fucking problem with being a mother if it was a role where childcare/housework/all that mind-numbing, soul-killing crap was equally shared with the person who had helped me conceive the child.
Fuck you for being dumb as shit. Fuck you for degrading our whole fucking gender. Fuck you for teaching your sons misogyny. Seriously. I hate you more than I hate misogynist men because you should FUCKING KNOW BETTER.
By the way, did you realize you posted that mindless drivel on a site called "The Thinking Housewife"?
@Tolpuddle Martyr: Right, motherhood is easy as all hell, and not something important enough put much effort into anyway. Besides, it's not like anyone might actually WANT to be a parent.
How much are you willing to bet that Laura is a big fan of mAnn Coulter?
Personally, I decided that I wouldn't become a father over 40 years ago when I saw what we humans are doing to this planet. I haven't found any reason to regret that decision. I have, however, served as a teacher and mentor to many young people and I generally take care to avoid telling them what I really think will happen in a generation or two. Ignorance is bliss and, as long as one is alive, it's best to have a good time. I don't feel it's my place to bring anyone else down.
BTW, Laura, you can take your "abnormal", write it on a big piece of cardboard, fold it up so a bunch of points stick out, light it on fire, and ram it up your Southern orifice; with my compliments.
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Seriously, I find most kids cute/funny, I love my nieces and the daughter of my best friend (even though the latter is an absolute hellion who regularly gets said friend in big trouble), but having a kid of my own would be a terrible idea: I'm way too fucked up to care for a kid, between my OCD and my boatload of other issues I can barely take care of myself, I wouldn't want a kid to inherit my genetic predisposition toward anxious disorders and depression, and I'd probably go all Andrea Yates (or even Sweeney Todd) if I had to care for a kid on a regular basis. And that's all without having to endure pregnancy, since my genitals are external....
What about us freaks who don't seem to be able to procreate? Are we allowed to be content with our situation? I'm of two minds, really, sometimes I wish I had a kid, if nothing else than to have grandchildren one day. Most of the time I like my independent life; me and hubby have satisfying lives without constant disturbance and vigilance.
"Celebrate abnormality"? What about all men who seem to be perfectly happy without kids?
I kinda like my siblings' children, but less is more, really. They are fun to be around for a couple of hours or a weekend, but it's nice and quiet when we go our separate way. When one of the kids scream, it's someone elses problem. Sure, I try to console the tyke, but if I can't, there's a parent waiting in the wing to take over.
"Thinking Housewife"?
Surely your husband does the thinking. You cook, clean, raise children, and put out at his command.
Now get back in the kitchen and off public fora - hussy!
But Jesus turning unto them said, Daughters of Jerusalem, weep not for me, but weep for yourselves, and for your children. For, behold, the days are coming, in the which they shall say, Blessed are the barren, and the wombs that never bare, and the paps which never gave suck. Then shall they begin to say to the mountains, Fall on us; and to the hills, Cover us. For if they do these things in a green tree, what shall be done in the dry?
- Luke 23:28-31
Meh, we've got way too many people on this planet as it is, I wouldn't say it's even wise to allow people who want to be parents to go ahead and do it, much less attempt to force people that don't want to have kids into having them anyway.
I find this kind of defensive cattery occurs when a different view encounters someone who isn't entirely happy with their life choices and secretly knows it, but doesn't want to admit it. Those who build their identity and self-worth on reproduction don't like to encounter different identities that force them to examine their own.
You're sad, Laura. Really sad.
I have PTSD, which often causes me to become withdrawn into my own little world, and completely oblivious to all that is going on around me. I'm amazed I can take care of myself, let alone have to deal with a crying baby or a child having trouble at school. Anything even remotely unpleasant has me burying myself in my books or laptop. I see the stories in the news of parents neglecting their children while they obsess over a computer game or something like that, why in the world would I want to subject a child to a mother like that? I'm doing social services and the justice system a favor, they're already overworked as it is. I have numerous children in Sims 3 though, and am doing a wonderful job raising them. ;)
I have had a perfect example of why I will never be a mother for the past six-and-a-half years. I'm going to go kidsit her this weekend. I adore her to pieces specifically because when she turns into an unholy little hellion, I can hand her back to my sister and go on my merry way.
And I will bust my ass to make sure she does not perpetuate the mistakes in judgment that created her mother and grandmother. Two generations of bitter, hateful bitches in this family was plenty more than enough!
They are freaks. They are not necessarily to be blamed for their lack of maternal feelings. But they are to be blamed for celebrating abnormality.
What's wrong with celebrating who you are? Even if we assume that they're so-called "freaks" that doesn't mean they should be miserable just for being the way they are. We don't tell people who are born deaf or blind to be ashamed of themselves. We don't expect albinos to apologize for lacking color. So why should someone who has a "lack a maternal feelings" feel bad about themselves? In fact, I'd say that if they lack that maternal instinct or don't think they'd make good mothers and decide not to have kids as a result that it needs to be applauded because they're making the responsible choice.
If someone doesn't want to be a mother, or more importantly, knows that she would be a bad mother, it should be her choice to not be one. Calling one a freak of nature is just mean, rude, and a fine display of so-called Christian love & compassion.
But they are to be blamed for celebrating abnormality.
So like the gays, childless women are to be shunned and driven from our society.
It turns out I'm well suited to be a mother. Some women aren't, but that doesn't mean they lose all value as human beings. It isn't abnormal at all to not want children, what is abnormal is trying to force yourself to conform to a standard that you don't agree with and making yourself, your children and everyone else around you miserable.
My oldest son came to me a few years ago and told me he never wanted to be a father (as he put it, "I'd rather attack my balls with a soldering iron.") I'm okay with this (the not having kids part, the soldering iron part I completely oppose). Parenting is not easy and if someone feels as if they don't have the patience or temperament to handle it, then they shouldn't. This doesn't make him a freak. It makes him smart because he knows himself well enough to understand that he shouldn't force himself to do something just because society finds it more acceptable.
It isn't a mandate.
BTW, women who decide not to have children are not celebrating abnormality, they're exercising their right to do what they want with their lives. Who is worse off; a woman who has a career and no interest in raising a family or a woman who forces herself to have one and hates it?
You're an utter idiot, Laura.
I'll never understand the idea among fundies (especially the anti-abortion crowd) that we need as many people on this planet as we can possibly produce. I know they believe that every child is a miracle, or a gift from God, but 6.5 billion miracles is enough!
Let women who don't want to be mothers not have children. People like the Duggars of "18 19 20 Kids and Counting" fame will take up the slack.
Um, what? No way. No way in heck. I am never having kids. Ever. I don't want them. I'd be a terrible mother - I can't keep sea monkies alive! I'd be a great whatever-you-call-a-parent's-cousin to my cousins' kids (no siblings), but I'd be an awful mother.
There will always be a vocal minority of people who have to justify their lifestyle choices at the expense of others. They are not necessarily to be blamed for their lack of decorum. This can be the result of an improper upbringing, mental defect, deep insecurities, and/or bitterness coupled with denial of same. They are only to be blamed for celebrating their ignorance of themselves and others. Laura, like her non-cogitating Bible-thumping sisters, complains that society has a myriad of individual expressions that do not conform to her narrow world view.
Fixed.
Hazel, a parent's cousin is a cousin once removed.
The problem with leaving the majority of parenting to people like Laura is that it increases the amount of time her ideas will have currency in the world. But I don't want kids either.
Dear Laura,
Kiss my no-child-wanting ass, you closed-minded, self-congratulatory cow.
Hugz,
"And furthermore, garble, garble, garble, froopdoddleydo."
The actual story being railed against is a sordid tale of a husband and wife's divergent expectations and desires resulting in a more fulfilling, happier relationship between her and her children. It's actually quite wholesome and sweet in the end, proving that making tough, but correct, choices can pay off in unexpected ways.
Despite that though, we're definitely talking about an "unconventional" parenting situation here. The fact that all parties are happier than ever and it's working well drives people like The Thinking Housewife fucking nuts. Reading her words, you can tell that she's trying to grasp at anything to make her target seem like an inhuman, stone-cold bitch who would drown her children the moment no one was looking. It comes as no surprise, though; hating the happiness of people who aren't living by the puritan values system du jour is a popular fundy pastime.
Sorry, some people don't want anything to do with kids. Or they're fine with kids, they just don't want to have any. It's completely normal, just some people don't want to accept it. Not just the Bible-thumpers, either.
I don't know what it is with these types and thinking if you don't want to obsess over kids you're some kind of nut.
I want to legally change my name now, not only do I belong to the same gender as her, I also have to share a name with this delusional woman.
Oh, by the way, 'thinking' housewife, I'll go live my 'freak of nature' life with my 'freak of nature' boyfriend happily, and laugh as you sit at home and fume about how everyone else is happier than you.
Also, die in a fire.
So are sterile women, for example, following your logic?, Or Heaven forbids, NUNS?. Minority doesn't mean freak.
Okay...so then I'm a freak according to you. I don't want children and never have (and probably never will).
I cringe reading this
However, it is funny, because adults without children report being happier. In fact, according to a recent survey done by some smart gent a la Harvard, child-free adults are statistically seven percent more ebullient than those who proliferate.
Congruently, marital satisfaction has been found to decrease after the birth of the first born child.
*finds the quote*
“Psychologists have measured how people feel as they go about their daily activities, and have found that people are less happy when they are interacting with their children than when they are eating, exercising, shopping or watching television.”
I spare myself spawn with pleasure! :D I do not think a litter of little humanoids would give me transcendence.
To those who appreciate sources
Peek below.
http://www.newsweek.com/2008/06/28/having-kids-makes-you-happy.html
http://www.time.com/time/magazine/article/0,9171,1202940-1,00.html
http://www.webmd.com/sex-relationships/features/child-free-couples-thriving-without-kids
This childfreeak was debating whether to indulge in some vino this night. Think I will now, if only to defy this jackass by celebrating my bad self. Ooooooh, think there's cake in the freezer too -- party on!
The way the Repugnicunts are ruining everything, we won't have choice but to become mothers and then desperately try to feed the kids as we won't have jobs or decent wages.
Rich people aren't going to pay for the kids, so, who will? These are the same people who are oblivious to the fact that their lords and masters are turning this country into a sweatshop. On the plus side at least they will able to employ their newly-born children because there won't be any unions or worker-protections laws.
Ahhh... dark ages are so nice for the few who have all the power.
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