#973318 wrote
@ CatAnon:
"This is why I want to go to England."
England has a very good chance of being under Sharia Law in 25 years unless the people there grow some balls and do something about their home-grown Islamist wackos who are dedicated to implementing Sharia Law there. The fundies in England are more dangerous, psychotic, and violent than ours. Watch Pat Condell's commentaries if you think England is such a great place these days. Also, they have the same economic problems that we have.
The scary thing is that if you point this out (as I have done here on FSTDS), you get any number of apologists pointing out that we already have Beth Din courts in the UK etc etc.
In the The (London) Times recently a leading Muslim was quoted as saying they expected some criminal cases to be tried under Sharia Law soon. Even if you agree (and I don't) that civil law is whatever women can be beaten into accepting one country having two or more two criminal law systems is wrong. Full stop. One criminal law for all must be the basis of a just society.
If you're a Muslim and you want to live under Sharia law, move out of the UK. If you're a UK subject of the Muslim persuasion happy to accept the law of the land, stay here and be welcome. But I don't care whether you were born here or not, if you have contempt for the Magna Carta Libertatum you'd be happier living somewhere else. The relevant section reads:
NO Freeman shall be taken or imprisoned, or be disseised of his Freehold, or Liberties, or free Customs, or be outlawed, or exiled, or any other wise destroyed; nor will We not pass upon him, nor condemn him, but by lawful judgment of his Peers, or by the Law of the Land. We will sell to no man, we will not deny or defer to any man either Justice or Right
Then, don't forget the twenty-six 'Lords Spiritual' who have an automatic right to a seat in the House of Lords on the basis that they talk to an invisible friend at a higher level than the grunts. Currently they're all Church of England, though Rabbi Immanuel Jakobovits and the Archbishop of Argyle were Lords at one time (Cardinal Basil Hume refused, apparently). And then there's the remainder of the House, either political appointees or there because their great-great-great-great-great grandfather stole more sheep than anyone around him. Bring on the elected Second House. Rant over.
Essentially, the whole system needs a complete overhaul but the basic principles are sound.
PS: And I agree with CatAnon, everyone should look up Pat Condell on YouTube. You won't all agree with him I'm sure, but you won't be wasting your time either. A true libertarian, and funny with it (in a very dry, British sort of way).
Peace.
