I personally think that a teenage girl shoud not try to draw extra attention to herself. A lot of girls think they belong to their friends, or even their boyfriend, and they follow what they are doing. As a girl, you belong to your dad until your wedding day. Who are you trying to impress?
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And I suppose your Dad is the one that organizes your wedding for you. How on Earth do you expect a groom to buy you off your father if you have the looks and personality and intelligence of a horse's ass?
And let me guess - once you're married, you're his property, so you'd better not look good then either.
Are you hideously ugly and resentful of pretty people, or does your problem run deeper than that?
You 'belong' to your father until your wedding day? Man, I bet her future husband will be able to do ANYTHING to her and she'll go for it.
Bluegrass Girl should change her name to 'Barefoot and Pregnant' girl, or just simply, 'doormat'.
"As a girl, you belong to your dad until your wedding day."
Maybe you do, but my dad has a sense of respect for my individuality.
And also, this sounds disturbingly erotic. Maybe you could clarify.
As a girl, you belong to your dad until your wedding day.
And it's good to know that if dad sells you as a slave and the buyer decides he wants to return you in "used" condition, your dad will be entitled to redeem you, and not let you be sold to a foreigner (Ex. 27:7-8).
"I personally think that a teenage girl shoud not try to draw extra attention to herself."
And, I support your right to not draw that extra attention. What other girls choose to do is really none of your business.
"A lot of girls think they belong to their friends,"
Huh? I've never, ever heard of a teenager who thought she belonged to her friends.
"or even their boyfriend,"
Such girls should learn to stand up for themselves, learn that they do not have to sumbit to anyone to have a boyfriend, but that has little to do with your "extra attention" assertion.
"and they follow what they are doing."
Are you suggesting that such girls are drawing "extra attention" to themselves by dressing and/or acting like their boyfriends?
"As a girl, you belong to your dad until your wedding day. Who are you trying to impress?"
As a person, YOU BELONG TO YOURSELF! What's wrong with you? Just because you're female doesn't mean your life options are limited to slave or doormat.
Obviously you asume that they don´t have personality to behave in a propper manner for themselves. In that case, the father is not different from the other people. And just the core, they don´t belong to anybody, THEY ARE NOT CHATTEL. And, beware, they don´t belong to the FATHER, after all, he hasn´t brought them to the world, or do you assume that a mother is a secondary element in education?
When I read stupid, self-hating comments like this from girls, I feel a strong desire to kick them in the butt. But, I abstain, because they probably get some pleasure from being mistreated and beaten down and I wouldn't want to give them the satisfaction.
I personally think
No, you don't.
Oh, so now they are promoting "incest" between father and daughter? That does sound a little strange. How about your body belongs to you until your wedding day, and you keep it until you give it to your husband. I would leave the "it belongs to my father" out of it just to be safe. Some men who are fathers and pedophiles will get the wrong idea.
Families in developed nations (for the most part, apparently except fundie assholes like you) stopped selling women like cattle a looong time ago.
We don't need to all work on farms, so families don't need compensation for the loss of a capable pair of hands.
And then you belong to your husband?
I guess you Bluegrass girl are perfectly fine with being a property for two types of males at two different periods in your life; rather than being acknowledged as a personality? Do you really like to be owned? Do you really like the males you respect and look up to, own you rather than be glad that you're a personality? Whatever floats your boat.
Anytime I read something by Bluegrass girl, I really get angry. I have always been independent, but have made the mistake of being in relationships with guys who treated me as property - who wanted me to forget a career and be their wife and have their kids! The moment they mentioned these things, they were out the door.
Sorry, bucko, I change my name for nobody.
I belong to me. My heart, my soul, my mind -- anything that makes me who I am, is mine. No one has any claim on it but me, and I would kill anyone who tried to own me. I am not a slave.
What really happened:
When Bluegrass Girl was five, she found her parents doing things that are usually done in the bedroom with the person of the other or same sex. Her parents rationalised it by saying things about love, marriage and God. They screwed up when they came to marriage ceremony part.
I love my dad - I'm absolutely daddy's little girl, so goth of me, I know - but i don't, and never have, belonged to him. My whole life, now i think about it, was me and my siblings bounding on ahead, and dad, plodding along behind, ready to catch us if we fall, or at least make a sincere grab for us and always carrying a really good pack of bandaids.
My dad's my favourite, definitely, and while, as his youngest daughter, he'll always see me as his precious baby, i'm simply not anymore.
To quote him directly, ''piss off, you wanker.''
@ Libkitten: Me too! The closest thing he did to controlling my body was to tell me that I needed to eat more when I got too skinny and kept getting dizzy spells...
@ BlueGrass Girl: Screw. you.
Everyone belongs to himself/herself...NOBODY else! This isn't BC times...women are no longer property! DEAL WITH IT!!! If you can't, (and I speak for every woman here) then get the heck out of our gender...nay, our species; nay, our planet; nay, our universe!
@ Alena: Amen, sister, amen! I'm very much of the same mind as you and I respect your independent spirit!
As a human being, I belong to myself from the day I was born until the day I die.
My dad would be appalled at the thought of being the owner of his daughters until their wedding day. Especially as we both married a couple of years after we left his home and created new homes with our husbands-to-be.
Confused?
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