Andy Carleton #fundie forums.digitalspy.com

[ on a 13 year old girl having sex with 22 adult men ]

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/northern_ireland/8110663.stm

The problem is that the girls see being with older men as a sign of maturity. The men shouldn't be taking advantage of that, it's terrible.

Hmmm....reading the article on this...it seems the other way round.

If sex is offered to blokes...most will take it as it is their nature. :rolleyes:

Most blokes will have sex with a child if offered? Really? Would you?

I believe the child in this case was misguided for certain, but it was the men who had sex with her who made the greater error and as the adults involved in the situation, should be held responsible.

If she looked and acted older than 13...then YES I would - as many blokes would do.

Sex is NOT the thing an actual 'child' would do though is it? (being blunt here) This is what my disagreement will always be - the fact that if they are ADULT enough to agree to ADULT activities...then mentally they are NOT a child just because of their age.

If a 13 year old craves sex so badly that she takes on 22 blokes older than her...then she is (physically and mentally) NOT a child is she because she knows EXACTLY what she is doing and she knows what SEX is!

You wouldn't get an 8 year old doing this because they are mentally and physically still a child and they wouldn't know what sex is all about. Everyone matures at DIFFERENT ages so I will always fail to understand WHY we live in such an ageist society. Girls mature at different ages....some at 12...some at 13...some at 14 and some at 18 and nothing will stop what comes naturally and if girls want sex at that age and their hormones are READY...then girls will have sex regardless of what the alleged outdated laws say. The laws (and VERY seriously) need to get a grip with nature and society and wake up to the reality that girls will do what comes naturally at what age they feel is ready, and in my personal views...their private life has nothing to do with 'outdated laws' of which are out of touch with reality or whatever age they are 'allegedly supposed to have sex' as it is their OWN decision and they are fully aware of consenting.

All this hype about...ahhh...she's ONLY 13 blah...blah...is utter crap as they know what they are doing or else they wouldn't go looking for it in the first place would they? :rolleyes:

For god sake...I wish people would wake up to 21st century reality instead of living in a fantasy world where all 13 year olds are safely tucked up in bed at 9.00pm with their teddy bears...

What is the point on the laws taking pity on something out of their control and making guys look like deliberate sex offenders when both have consented at their own peril?

I have a 13 year old daughter and some of the comments on here make me shudder. I tell you now, if I found out any 27 year old bloke had tried to have sex with her, he wouldn't be having sex with anyone else for the rest of his life.

Clearly the signs of an unhappy, unloved and disturbed young lady.

This guy knew exactly what he was doing, and didn't give a damn. I hope they lock him up for a long time. He obviously knew she was 13 by the quote above. I don't care how much she "came on" or encouraged the sex - he should have walked away. It's called self-control and having responsibility for your actions.

Well clearly reading the statement...'she' couldn't give a damn either so where does that leave responsibility? Why didn't SHE walk away if she was so concerned and being allegedly under age?

If they have BOTH given consent then no one is to physically blame for what comes naturally! I can see your concern...but you need to look at the bigger picture. A 17 year old or a 25 year old can just as easily take on 22 guys for sexual intentions and you could state that they are screwed up and unhappy. Most girls do this just for fun and to get sexual kicks of which many may disagree...but we are in the 21st century where girls are now more open/ grown up and will have sex at what age they feel suited to.

It takes TWO to tango regardless of age and girls are as much to blame...if not more! :rolleyes:

Are you serious? really? If a thirteen year old girl is "giving out" then my first thought would be that she is clearly in need of help. As an older person you have GOT to take responsibility in that situation, not take advantage of it. She obviously WASN'T concerned about it - which should only serve to heighten the sense that all is not well........

Look at the teenage pregnancies...doesn't that ring alarm bells of what young teenage girls are up to?

Isn't it up to THEM to take 50% of responsibility because they know EXACTLY what they are doing???

Girls will do what comes naturally whenever they feel ready...and NOT what the law states and guys will (again) do what comes naturally if it is offered and consented.

Just because girls at 13 have sex, it does not mean their state of mind is screwed up as they are only doing what comes naturally. They are NOT going to hold back just because the law says so. This is what I mean by living in an outdated society. The laws (and people alike - including parents) need to wake up to reality as the situation is not going to go away...but instead needs to be addressed accordingly...and above all 'realisticly'

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