The pope, remember, has infallibility... The pope says no abortion. I totally agree with him. If he was wrong, then you are saying that God, the Holy Spirit, the third person of the Blessed Trinity, had lied and proclaimed a wrong.
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Frankly, after Pope Innocent and popes who thought it wiser to shuttle child molestors around than turn them in or get them psychiatric help, the Holy Spirit doesn't have a lot of cred with me. I could pick better popes with a pack of index cards and a dart.
What protestant funies don't have, is a person on earth they give divinity to. I'll never understand it. Humans are evil, sinful, hateful, unkind, unloving creatures, yet one of them is considered god on earth by the catholics. It's weird.
Nope, we're saying that there is no evidence for the existence of any gods.
The pope only has infallibility for people who are Catholics. To the rest of us he's just a man in a dress and a funny hat.
The Pope is only infallible when he speaks "ex cathedra", and he says if he's doing that.
In other words, the Pope is only infallible when he says he's being infallible.
I believe that's only happened once, and that was, IIRC, regarding the doctrine that Mary was assumed bodily into Heaven.
>>I believe that's only happened once, and that was, IIRC, regarding the doctrine that Mary was assumed bodily into Heaven. <<
Since the current doctrine of papal infallibility was formalized, it has been invoked twice: in 1854 defining the dogma of the Immaculate Conception, and in 1950 defining the Assumption of Mary.
Infallibility is generally held to have apply retroactively to five or six earlier papal statements, all of which were to clarify why three now-extinct groups (Monophysitism, Monothelitism, and Jansenism) were heretics.
Still, nothing there about abortion or, more generally, about ethics at all.
Note: the Oriental Orthodox Churches are sometimes called monophysites. Technically, they are miaphysites. The difference between the two is not quite clear to me.
That's not even true. The Pope is infalible, not every single time he opens his mouth, only when he speaks ex cathedra about a doctrinal matter. It has happened four times exactly in the last 150 years. Abortion was not one of them, sorry
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