The Scottie dogs used to lead out athletes in the Commonwealth Games opening ceremony in Glasgow were “disrespectful” to Muslims, according to Malaysian politicians.
Terriers in tartan coasts embroidered with team names walked ahead of competitors from each country around the arena last week.
Mohamad Sabu, deputy president of the Pan-Malaysian Islamic Party said all Islamic countries deserved and apology from organisers, the Telegraph reported.
“This is just so disrespectful to Malaysia and Muslims – especially as it happened during Ramadan,” he added.
“Muslims are not allowed to touch dogs, so the organiser should have been more aware and sensitive on this issue.
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Nobody was asked to touch the dogs. If you don't like dogs, don't come to the UK because the English, Northern Irish, Scottish and Welsh people love our dogs.
Sure, respect is good, but it has to go both ways.
And were any of the handlers Muslim? Was a Muslim forced or ordered to touch a dog? Is Ramadan a particularly dog free time? And don't BS me, because I've been to Muslim countries, and there are lots of dogs wondering around.
Just another case of looking for something to complain about.
I have a weird phobia where large dogs terrify me (I know they shouldn't), but also small dogs who jump on furniture to lick the face. If Sabu here thinks the presence of dogs is an insult to him personally, I say paralyze his body and let my friend's Boston terrier at him. This dog likes to lick inside the mouth >:D
Okay, I try to be respectful to other cultures and I try not to be one of those anti-PC idiots who doesn't care who's offended (many of them even go out of their way to be offensive) but seriously, there's a limit. And there should be some give and take. Being conscientious and being forced to bow to your every whim are two completely different things. Moreover, if the teams had a problem with it that'd be one thing and the organizers could have adjusted accordingly and not given them a dog. But if the teams didn't care then it's none of your business. You are entitled to be offended, you are not entitled to be taken seriously and accommodated especially when you're not the one being affected.
Dogs are not Muslim-kryptonite, Sabu!
And how could you hate THIS?!...image
Go ride an elephant, Sabu...into the Kuntilanak's lair, she's hungry!
I'll wub Scotteh puppeh tummeh...and give it "razzberries"...*pbbbbttthhhtt*!
I don't recall anybody being made to touch the dogs at any point. Something existing is not an offense to your religion. Also, you're not allowed to touch dogs? What about seeing eye dogs? And companionship?
I learn something new about religion every day and it always turns out to be depressing.
You're in their country, so you're supposed to be respecting THEIR culture, the same as you'd expect of them on your turf. But respect never goes both ways with you, does it? Everyone's just expected to bow down and pay tribute to your ridiculous superstitions while you insult them with impunity.
I really hope nobody gives an apology, official or otherwise, for the dogs.
@Passerby :
What about seeing eye dogs?
Muslim cabdrivers in England used to not allow people with seeing eye dogs in their cabs.
They all had their cab licences yanked so that nonsense stopped quickly.
Maybe - maybe - if it were in a mainly Muslim, highly religious country. But it was in Scotland, and they were using Scottie dogs because they are one of Scotland's symbols. Is walking my dog over here in the US disrespectful to Muslims in Malaysia? What about dog shows, or adorable videos on Youtube?
Saying that dogs can't be shown publicly is awful. Dogs are adorable, beautiful, and friendly. I love my Labrador, and he loves me back. His energy and fuzziness got me through the worst parts of my depression.
Any religious sect that forbids dogs is not one I want to join.
No one is forcing you to attend. If you don't like it then stay the fuck home. The civilized and remotely intelligent nations of the world certainly won't miss you.
Frankly if you were at all surprised by the Scottish using scotties then you deserve an indefinite number of swift kicks to the back of the head until you learn to stop being so stupid.
According to Wikipedia (here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Islam_and_animals#Dogs ), the idea of dogs being unclean animals is one of those things that not everyone in Islam agrees with. Notably, the Prophet Muhammad loved dogs (and most other animals too, but dogs especially).
I guess muslims are unilaterally hardcore cat people?
Edit: Now I'm just picturing kittens on the Koran because Muhammad absolutely adored fluffy kittens. It just makes one of the abrahamic faiths oh so much more tolerable.
Well Doggone it!
@Professor von SCIENCE!!!: If you looked at the article I linked, then yeah they do love cats. Muhammad had a cat named Muezza that he adored and there's another article linked in there about Islam and cats too.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Islam_and_cats
Still Muhammad apparently did like dogs, even if the sources are kinda mixed about what he really said about them (Some Muslims think the sources citing him as calling them unclean are unreliable).
I know that your prophet was more of a kitteh guy (such a cutting his sleeve not to wake up the cat sleeping on it), but AFAIK he didn't hate dogs. Isn't the idea that they just shouldn't be allowed inside, not that their very touch is poisonous? And I though that some groups of Muslims (Afghans, maybe?) love their greyhounds like children...
How does this dickmeat explain these dog breeds that originate and thrive in Muslim countries
image An Afghan Saluki.
image A Pakistani Bully Kutta dog.
image A Turkish Kangal dog.
There is also a story in the Koran where a pet dog saved the lives of some companions of Mohammad.
Well it is apart of their tradition - I think it is wonderful - As long as the respective Muslims did not handle the dogs, I do not see the problem! After all Scotland's Traditions are JUST as Important as those of the Islamic Party. Basically, it comes down to compromise - Scotland, the UK, & the USA have compromised a lot in behalf of "Islam" - a little understanding from the Islamic Part is now in order... - it is 'give & take!'
I'm pretty sure they can touch them, they just think owning and living with them is disgusting and uncivilized.
Pretty much the rest of the world has a long term relationship with them so I'm saying you loose. I'm in the service trade, believe me I wish less people had dogs so I do feel for you.
"The Scottie dogs used to lead out athletes in the Commonwealth Games opening ceremony in Glasgow "
Here's a tenner:
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Now buy yourself a fucking clue .
Derp.
There's an awful lot of alcohol in Glasgow too, but I bet you don't see those Muslims who own convenience stores there - that sell 'Carry Outs' to thirsty Glaswegians - complaining.
@#1693980
"What about the gay kiss?"
Notice they didn't say word one in complaint about that?:
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Very telling.
Something you want to tell us, Sabby...?! Meanwhile, as Drew Pritchard's dog Enzo would say:
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Confused?
So were we! You can find all of this, and more, on Fundies Say the Darndest Things!
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