To have sex with a non-Christian is to defile Christ. Scripture is emphatic that sex makes two people one. A born-again Christian is spiritually united to Christ and a non-Christian is spiritually united to the devil. To marry a non-Christian is therefore to try to make Christ one with the devil.
A spiritually mixed marriage is a hideous perversion. It is the profanity of trying to unite that which must never be united – trying to unite that which belongs to the Holy One to that which belongs to the Evil One; trying to make holiness (that’s what we are through our union with Jesus) one with evil (that’s the basic nature of the nicest non-Christian).
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Uhm.. so A christian is spiritually united with Christ, i.e. is married to jebus?
That means they can't marry anymore. No sex outside wedlock also means they'll finally stop breeding!
and there was much rejoice.
as an aside: if spiritually united is a form of marriage, does that mean that a male christian is in a same-sex marriage with Christ? Why are they so opposed to that idea in the first place?
The devil is a Christian concept. Non-Christians neither believe in nor worship him.
Worship is active, so don't tell me that we're secretly united with the devil without knowing it.
now, now, let's not attack the poor fundie. He (or she) may be right. Let the real christians marry each other for ever, and avoid us devil people. Inbreeding is really, really not good for the gene pool, and I think we can all take the long view here.
Christ taught us to love all people, regardless of their rightness with God.
Sex in Christianity is seen as an expression of love for the partner. (yes, different types of love, but love none the less).
Also, moral absolutism is possibly the most illogical tenant embraced by fundies of all stripes.
I had nothing to say until the end of your last sentence
...evil (that’s the basic nature of the nicest non-Christian)
So only Christians can be good and the rest of us are evil REGARDLESS of what we do. You win the Willful Ignorance award and the prize is a crowbar to try and pry your head out of your ass.
I'd prefer to marry someone who I get along with, instead of their beliefs thank you very much.
The probelm with you fucking Christians is that you see the world as black and white. You judge non-Christians so quickly without evem knowing what they are really and jump to the conclusion that they are the devil.
As if Christian themselves are perfect, what about the priests/pastors who molests young children?
"To have sex with a non-Christian is to defile Christ. "
Yet, if one person in a marriage becomes a Christian after they are married, you will be just as quick to deny them the opportunity to divorce, thus forcing them to "defile Christ."
Oh the hypocrisy.
Fuck you and the horse you rode in on.
Good thing my wife is a Catholic and not a true Christian, so neither one of us will be defiling Christ.
As far as being born again, well pardon me for getting it right the first time.
Once again, according to bible doctrine, this is true. Practice what you preach, you pussies, or don't judge anyone else.
To have sex with a non-Christian is to defile Christ. Scripture is emphatic that sex makes two people one. A born-again Christian is spiritually united to Christ and a non-Christian is spiritually united to the devil. To marry a non-Christian is therefore to try to make Christ one with the devil.
Insane Troll Logic for the lose.
A spiritually mixed marriage is a hideous perversion. It is the profanity of trying to unite that which must never be united trying to unite that which belongs to the Holy One to that which belongs to the Evil One; trying to make holiness (that’s what we are through our union with Jesus) one with evil (that’s the basic nature of the nicest non-Christian).
If even the nicest non-Christian has an evil basic nature, then the words "good" and "evil" lose all meaning, as they become completely disconnected to a person's actions, which define morality.
Trust me, as I'm dating one, you haven't lived until you've fucked a Satanist. My girlfriend's into all sorts of kinky shit.
Seriously though, get real. True love knows not gender, race, OR creed. The fact that you think being with someone who's not christian is "unclean" says volumes about your bigoted ass.
I find that christian girls tend to like it in the bum.
Maybe that's the problem... Maybe Grantley is unable to please a woman, and all the ladies are running off to find a nice non-christian to satisfy them.
Your body is a Temple of the Holy Spirit, so ANY sex in it defiles the Holy One.
If all you Christians stop having sex then the Last Days will surely come.
"A born-again Christian is spiritually united to Christ"
So... menage a trois for Jebus eh, Grantley? Kinky.
I'm german, and I can truly say that this fundie really scares me. Because there was a certain era in recent german history where sex between people of the allegedly "true" race and people of the "wrong" race was strictly forbidden, by law. (the so-called "Nuremberg Laws")
And the grounds for this racist, evil, abhorrent law were shockingly similiar to this fundie's weird views.
Is having sex with a non-Christian as bad as having anal sex with a choir boy as many Pastors and most Catholic Fathers do?
However, an ideal situation is if an atheist and a Christian were to marry, as it might help save any children from becoming delusional suckers.
I can't make the macro work so ...
Batshit insane though he was, ol' Charles Henry Moffett got one good point out:
"There's nothing wrong with having a little perversion. As long as you don't hurt yourself."
LOL. I dated a Jew who was uncomfortable with the idea of having sex with me (a goy!) for the same reason. He was only comfortable after finding out that I was, in fact, Jewish because my maternal great grandmother was a Jew.
See? All you religious nuts have the "Us Vs. Them" complex.
To have sex with a non-Christian is to defile Christ.
Kinky.
Scripture is emphatic that sex makes two people one.
Not always. There are a number of relationships that are purely sexual without any kind of oneness. And scripture is wrong about many things such as claiming that goats fucking in front of rods will make offspring that match the rods so pardon me if I don't take it seriously.
A spiritually mixed marriage is a hideous perversion.
Actually, from what I've seen, mixed religion marriages tend to be rather strong because both partners are willing to accept each other for who they are. And fundies tend to be the ones who are most likely to divorce even though both partners are "True" Christians. Funny that.
A non Christian is united with the devil. I wonder how many Christians realise what that says about the devil. And how is marrying a non Christian going to unite Christ and Devil? Oh because the unbeliever is of the devil. Even if the unbeliever lives a good life which, according to you, comes now from the devil. Did you really think this through?
The rest of this dweeb's website is no better.
"Many Christian singles like myself are cruelly tormented by our sexual urges. For us, sex seems almost a curse, certainly little better than an infuriating frustration. When it comes to being swamped by these feelings, I must be an expert. I’m a 47 year old virgin."
Have you considered chemical and/or surgical castration, Grantley?
"Scripture is emphatic that sex makes two people one."
You mean like Lot's daughters did with him? God didn't seem to complain about that.
"A spiritually mixed marriage is a hideous perversion."
You mean like Boaz and Ruth? Don't forget, Ruth was a Moabite, one of the two peoples who were not to be accepted into the company of Israelites "even to the tenth generation" according to Deuteronomy.
Admit it Grantley. You don't know $#&! about the bible. You're just making stuff up.
Hmm. Except that, as an atheist, I know that the devil is fictional, just like your imaginary friend, Jesus. I cannot become one with them.
I think your head has become one with your a**hole.
I've read some rubbish on this site but FUCK ME. This one literally left me slack jawed - mouth open - shocked?
Please, for fucks sake, don't breed.
This sounds like anti-miscegenation polemic. Am I in the 1950's now?
Also, my Baptist ex and I used to "defile Christ" on a regular basis, and he didn't seem to see it that way at alll.
@AuraTwilight
"So my Jesus/Satan yaoi is canon?"
God/Demon hentai certainly is, if you've read/watched "Ah! My Goddess". The goddess/demon hybrid Urd is as a result of 'Kami-sama' (God) having sex with the 'Daimakaicho' (or 'Leader of Hell') Hild:
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Thus not for nothing is she my all-time favourite anime/manga MILF (2nd being "Kiddy Grade"'s Dvergr, and "Kanon"'s Akiko Minase being 3rd).
PROTIP: Fundies such as Mr. Morris say that the Bible is the literal 'Word of God'. Remember, Grantley: the word 'Bible' comes from the Greek word 'Biblios'. Which translates as 'Book'. Which means even a manga is a Bible* (and indeed, there have been manga adaptations of the New Testament). Thus "Ah! My Goddess" is a literally true Bible; and as it includes the notion of God having sex with a demon (and no less than Nidhogg's - or Hell's - numero uno, Hild), then as this 'Bible' is the Word of God, therefore your own God committed a sexual act that contravenes your own logic, Grantley. And if God has defiled himself in this way, then he is imperfect (but then he did - via the Holy Spirit - have sex with a non-Christian: Mary, a Nazarene Jew ) and thus can't be God, therefore he is a contradiction to himself, ergo he doesn't exist. QED.
*- There's also the light novels & manga featuring Haruhi Suzumiya. Who is God. Have I blown your mind, Grantley?
Well, hell yes, defiling Christ is the only reason to have sex, isn't it? Huh. I thought hat's what makes it feel so good. Shit, why even bother bangin' a fundy? {{shudder}}
Fascinating. This is positively medieval. I mean it. Literally, not just as a pejorative.
These are arguments used in medieval Spain about miscegenation. Those cases read as racial discrimination, but if one partner converted it was immediately fine. All Christians (especially women) were part of the body of Christ, and defilement, all that jazz. This. Exactly. Except for modern expressions like 'nice.'
There was also an interesting focus on Christian prostitutes only being available to Christian men because of consanguinity being established by the use of public women, and getting a Muslim or Jew in your kinship network was repellent, even if you worked and traded and even (though authority frowned upon it) ate together.
"To have sex with a non-Christian is to defile Christ. Scripture is emphatic that sex makes two people one. A born-again Christian is spiritually united to Christ and a non-Christian is spiritually united to the devil. To marry a non-Christian is therefore to try to make Christ one with the devil."
Fascinating. Tell me more about defiling Christ, Grantley. EWhat? Oh, of course, to avoid doing it accidentaly... Mouhahahahahahahaha...!
"A spiritually mixed marriage is a hideous perversion. It is the profanity of trying to unite that which must never be united trying to unite that which belongs to the Holy One to that which belongs to the Evil One; trying to make holiness (that’s what we are through our union with Jesus) one with evil (that’s the basic nature of the nicest non-Christian)."
Sooo, are you saying that Jebus automatically loses to Satan? :P
@rubber chicken & Doubting Thomas: believe it or not, you're not the first people to think of that.
The proof:
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What about a hand job, oral, or anal? Is that still like Jesus sexing up the devil?
Come on Grantly, give us some options.
Most of the women I've had sex with I forgot first to ask their religious affiliation. No, actually, make it all the women I've had sex with.
Damn, I knew I'd overlooked something important.
This sounds like polygamy. If you're already married to Christ, and then marries a woman as well, then you're three in the marriage. I guess you have a point; bringing in the Devil also makes the marriage bed kind of crowded...
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